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  1. We take our dog to the nearby state park, where leashes are required. And if there’s not much of anyone around, we let her off the leash. She’s voice-trained and stays close to us, and we ensure that she doesn’t bother people. My husband doesn’t take the dog to the park on Mondays, when there’s a ranger who does clean-up from the weekend who will harass him about the leash even when there’s absolutely no one else around. The ranger just doesn’t like dogs, evidently, and he’s kind of a jerk. This Christian Cooper is sounding more and more like this kind of jerk, plus racism.

    O’Brien’s role in this is just plain evil.

  2. I don’t think there are many prominent journalists who have any decency or integrity.

    That having been said, someone at Franklin Templeton fired Amy Cooper and their corporate communications apparat then libeled her. And there are a mess of hiring managers at competing companies who will not consider her for employment. Cancel culture works because garbage people behave this way.

  3. @Art Deco:

    News Flash: Most people are Garbage People when push comes to shove.

    Extra! Extra!: Proportion goes up as you go up the org chart.

    Which is why he who rules must set and enforce the moral tone. And make sure that not too many pushes are permitted to reach the shoving stage. You don’t want people learning too much about their own characters or the characters of those around them if can at all be avoided. Not a Genie goes back in the bottle. Cannot be forgotten once seen.

  4. Look at all the media types and elected officials that blatantly smeared the Covington kids within minutes of the event.

    Twitter just allows these losers to do more damage than before because now they don’t even have to edit a story just grab the phone at fire off a hot take.

  5. As I mentioned in the other comment section even were one to assign all the bad motives to Amy I still don’t see how her punishment matches that ‘crime’.

    I don’t care how nice and kind you are at some point in time you have been in a bad mood and maybe treated a stranger poorly but that moment shouldn’t alter the entire trajectory of your life.

  6. Griffin:

    That’s what cancel culture and the left are all about. They’re not about fairness, or looking at the whole picture, or even about finding the truth. They’re about destroying those who step out of line or give the appearance of stepping out of line. It’s a warning to everyone else, and a demonstration of power as well.

  7. neo,

    I guess, but it bothers me more when it’s a private citizen just going about their life.

    Lack of power I think is what gets me. There was nothing Amy could have done from the moment that happened where as some that have been cancelled have a high enough profile to fight back to some degree.

  8. It bothers me intensely, as well.

    Writing posts is all I can think of to do about it, and also sometimes trying to point things out the fuller story to friends and bring their attention to the injustice. But unless they’re willing to put in the time to read or listen to what I’m referring to, it’s probably wasted effort.

  9. neo:

    I forgot to mention it in my comment but the Bari Weiss substack article was written by Megan Phelps-Roper.

    The first time I read it I assumed it was by Weiss too, but then I ran into these first-person comments about growing up in the infamous Westboro Church and I thought, “Wait a minute.”

  10. The name, Soledad, is a Spanish girl’s name, but I can’t help but wonder if in Soledad O’Brien’s case it’s a shout-out to the “Soledad Brothers,” three black inmates at Soledad Prison who killed a white guard and became a cause celebre on the revolutionary left.

    Freeing the Soledad Brothers was the objective in an aborted kidnapping of Judge Haley at the Marin County courthouse in 1970 that left four dead, including the judge.

    The weapons were recently purchased by Angela Davis. She was tried and found “not guilty.” She has gone on, naturally, to a distinguished academic career.

  11. Sometime I feel a bit like Artfldgr, shouting at the traffic like Kevin McCarthy in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” about the history of the leftist body snatchers.

    In 1980 who would have thought the New Left would win?
    ________________________________________________

    You fools! Can’t you see you’re in danger? They’re after you! They’re after all of us. Our wives, our children, everyone. They’re here already! You’re next! YOU’RE NEXT! YOU’RE NEXT! YOU’RE NEXT!”

    –Kevin McCarthy, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJDSd7pNrk

  12. Most people are Garbage People when push comes to shove.

    Thanks for the projection. Always an education.

  13. Art Deco:

    He does that a lot. A feature he appears to be proud of.

    When he was lecturing neo about his wisdom from third world cabbies a song from the 70’s came to mind: Z was “Looking for Love In All the Wrong Places.”

  14. Soledad O’Brien came out of San Fran Bay Area local tv news and even while still in that capacity she was very race obsessed. I specifically recall a Soledad story about how St Patrick’s Day crowds being mainly Caucasian was somehow racist. She’s a piece of … work, and always has been. Also thick as a brick.

  15. Oh.. *that* Soledad O’Brien. Back in the low tech days before hotel room TVs started showing a ‘Welcome Back, Gauleiter Zaphod!’ personalized welcome screen upon arrival, she’d be on the box jabbering away as I came through the door. But not for long.

  16. I remember her on MSNBC back when that actually meant “Micro-Soft-NBC and she was the host on some show that was about computer tech. She wasn’t political on that as far as I remember but it’s been a lot of years.

  17. I noticed huxley’s comment about the Facebook video on the first post and thought, “How could she have missed that?”
    It was very prominent in the original reporting that I remember!

    Neo’s speculation about why it was deep-sixed pronto are probably correct.

  18. I did read about the threat C Cooper made to A Cooper as well as the prepared dog treats he was carrying pretty quickly after the story first came out, but no one I discussed it with seemed to care and were all quite eager to blame A Cooper as a racist who should be shunned from all society. It reminded me of how the lies about Zimmerman were so popular.

  19. Yeah, Soledad O’Brien is a POS progressive activist with a megaphone, AKA “jOuRnALiSt” possibly THE most disgusting form of human on earth. They are literally the tip of the spear that allows decrepit and traitorous scum like Obama and Biden to escape any kind of honest evaluation. And I don’t give two figs about how terribly “rAcIsT” people were to her parents.

    For their sake, they sure better hope things never truly go south, as people will not forget this kind of behavior.

  20. That’s certainly a searing history for O’Brien

    Yup. That’s almost as searing as Affirmative Action, minority set-aside, protected classes, forced busing, polar bear hunting, knockout games, differences in crime statistics….

  21. If only Cooper were a Communist and had the kind of true friendship found in Hollywood. She could work under a transparent pseudonym, be given awards, then made into a heroine.

  22. I’ve learned to have an open mind about these “civilian” videos. The camera is often turned on after some precipitating event such that vital context is missing. Context that very often casts a much different light on the situation.

    This is the first I’ve heard of Mr Cooper’s FB post admitting making a threat. And I’m not surprised to find missing context. Once again I’m disheartened that so called “journalists” have failed at their jobs.

  23. Moral of the story: Mainstream media is filth. And the people who read/watch CNN, AP, NYTimes, WaPo are complicit.

    There are 3 antagonists in the story. The 2 obvious ones, and the much larger malignant hate-filled one, the American “mainstream” Media.

  24. Not surprising, considering the drooling, vindictive gratification with which Ashli Babbit’s killing is justified. And this by nice church ladies who don’t think murder should carry the death penalty.
    To think of this crowd as having any consistency except in cluelessness and anger is a waste of time.

  25. When A. Cooper threatened to call the police, C. Cooper said, “Please, call the police!” In the podcast, the question is never asked: was C. Cooper bluffing or was he conscious that this situation was no threat to *him*? All the evidence indicates the latter to have been the case. It seems to follow that the whole controversy on the left has been artificial and hypocritical.

  26. I first read this story at the New York Post. It included the threat/quote:
    “look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it” & the part about the dog treats for he carried for “such intransigence”. It seems Wapo & NYT left that out.

  27. I think it was aln over reaction to Amy Cooper and had the races been reversed and she was black and Christian Cooper was white we would never have heard of this incident. I’m sorry to see her life ruined and she probably will never get another job again or at least for a long time. If I was her I would sue my former employer.

  28. The thing that stands out to me about this whole sad story is the expectation by so many that calling the police on C Cooper was tantamount to “risking his life,” as if ALL interactions by police with black persons would result in murder.

    Do these folks even remember the Chris Rock “How Not to Get Your A** Kicked by the Police” instructional video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8)? Humorous yes, but absolutely true. Do what the police say, and you will be okay MOST of the time.

  29. Terry Tannehill:

    The NY Post is a news outlet that is on the right. There were indeed some papers on the right who covered it better such as that one; I had read some of the fuller story somewhere on the right very shortly after it happened. But the totality of the story didn’t emerge until later, and the majority of the MSM didn’t ever reveal it. What’s more – and again, I’m doing this from memory – a lot of blogs on the right came down hard initially on Amy Cooper. The video convinced them.

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