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  1. neo:

    Sounds right to me.

    Likability seems to be the hill Trump died on. To be sure the non-stop, full-court press by the Dems and mainstream media didn’t help nor the election fraud, but likability matters to voters and Trump paid a price for his harshness.

    If he had had more of the Reagan touch, who knows.

  2. The utter incompetence of recent Democratic Party politicians is very striking. If Hillary had an ounce of political skill, she would have won handily in 2016 (if not in 2008). In the run-up to the 2016 election, a progressive friend was bemoaning the possibility of a Trump victory. I told her I thought a Trump presidency would be the best thing that ever happened to the progressive movement and that I couldn’t think of a better way to put Kamala Harris in the White House in 2020 with progressive majorities in Congress.

    My mistake was assuming that Kamala Harris was a competent politician. Recall that she was touted as the heir to Obama. I didn’t expect her to have Obama’s level of talent, but I did at least expect her to have above average political skills.

    I’m not sure what’s up with Democrats. Maybe they’re just reverting to the mean after having two generational political talents within eight years of each other in Bill and Obama. Maybe it’s something else.

    (Clarification – Calling an individual a good politician is not the same as saying that individual was a good president. Obama and Clinton were terrible presidents.)

  3. The last decent Democrat President was Harry Truman, mostly because he had the resolve to drop the big one (of which he was blissfully unaware) to end the big war. The rest have been either crooks or incompetents, or most often both.

  4. Huxley,

    Yep, “mean tweets!!” vs doddering ol’ grandpa Joe. No contest for about 60% of the public.

  5. Good analysis, Neo. I agree with much of what you wrote.

    But you didn’t mention Dr. Jill, and I think she somehow has enough power over the Democratic Party to keep Joe propped up and in the White House.

    One thing I am surprised about is Joe’s ability to come through when the chips are down. His speech about gun control was terrible, not only because of what he said, but particularly the way he read it. Yet the next day he was in the public eye and seemed lucid and animated. There’s some kind of Fountain of Youth in the White House, I guess. And even though he kind of stepped in it with his comment about not signing the infrastructure bill unless it came with his other bill in tandem, he managed to walk that back without anyone commenting on senility.

    Back to Dr. Jill. During the campaign I kept wondering how she could allow Joe to go out in public and give such a pathetic public performance. But she did, and the American voters (almost) gave him a victory. A tribute to his staying power.

  6. It will take a major public disaster to get him out. What is so interesting to me is that there are NO leaks from the WH about Joe and his daily struggles.

  7. I will continue to wait for 2 yrs + 1 day. At that point, KH can become president and run for two full terms. PM Trudeau believes Joe will not be president come 2022. Perhaps we will get lucky and Pelosi, with ice-cream brain freeze, will take the job.

  8. There’s some kind of Fountain of Youth in the White House, I guess.

    F:

    No doubt.
    ___________________________________

    If you’re down, he’ll pick you up
    Doctor Robert
    Take a drink from his special cup
    Doctor Robert

    Doctor Robert
    He’s a man you must believe
    Helping anyone in need
    No one can succeed like
    Doctor Robert

    Well, well, well, you’re feeling fine
    Well, well, well, he’ll make you
    Doctor Robert

    –Beatles, “Doctor Robert”

  9. Harris isn’t just harsh; she giggles inappropriately, is sometimes unable to answer simple questions, and has generally failed to do much of anything. She must be a disappointment to those who probably assumed she’d be taking over soon, and she represents another reason Biden is still president.

    Yeah, she’s essentially an ersatz version of Hillary, but perhaps even less cunning. Like Hillary she’s charmless, incompetent, and ruthless. I guess it’s probably a good thing that she’s evidently best the current Democrat party can come up with.

    Honestly when I try to envision who the Democrats can possibly put as a presidential candidate in 2024, I’m hard pressed to think of anyone who could be particularly viable. But I also remember that they were able to get Biden in (one way or the other), so if they can succesfully foist such an adle brained disaster with more baggage than an airport terminal upon the American public, who can say? Maybe AOC will be our next president? Although in order for such an insane event to happen I imagine that the meda and our tech overlords would have to bend reality to such an extent that nothing would hold meaning anymore.

  10. What is so interesting to me is that there are NO leaks from the WH about Joe and his daily struggles.

    In 1975, there would have been. Dorothy Kilgallen once boasted “This story isn’t going to die as long as there’s a real reporter alive — and there are a lot of them.” Not anymore there aren’t. You’ve got régime media, and you’ve got reporters and commentators that no one in the régime will speak to.

  11. Honestly when I try to envision who the Democrats can possibly put as a presidential candidate in 2024, I’m hard pressed to think of anyone who could be particularly viable.

    Nonapod:

    That’s my question and I don’t have any thoughts either, unless their radicalism bombs so badly that:

    Tulsi Gabbard, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you…

  12. The rest have been either crooks or incompetents, or most often both.

    I think Jimmy Carter was mixed and likely gave you better public policy than someone (anyone) more reflective of the Democratic Party’s id would have.

  13. Obama and Clinton were terrible presidents.

    Clinton had the sense to not do damaging things in areas of public policy which might rouse an inattentive electorate. The misbegotten effort to reconstruct the system of financing medical care earned him an unexpected bat over the nose with a newspaper, and he was careful after that. He did degrade public life (with the assistance of the broadcast media), by developing his talent for hiding the muck by placing it behind a bigger pile of muck.

  14. I guess the real question is, how long can the Democrats keep up this hideous, destructive charade?

    I think the answer is that they believe they’re doing far better than they actually are—because they truly believe their own lies and they have a groveling, gushing media that refuses to criticize them because of partisanship and solidarity—and “defense” against “the enemy”. The Democrats then are essentially a jesterless King Lear.

    But what all this really means is anyone’s guess.

    They could implode tomorrow (doubtful, of course); or they could muddle along and succeed in plunging the country into a crisis (or even better from their point of view—series of crises) that may well turn out to be existential.

    Then what happens?….since the enemy of the Democratic Party is the American people….

  15. There was a story in the NYT (I think) a month ago or so about all the propping up behind the scenes they have to do to get Biden ready for public viewing but that is the closest I have seen to any talk from the left media about his mental state.

  16. Art+Deco – Bill had the good sense to not push damaging policy . . . but not until he pushed HillaryCare and became the first Democratic president since Harry Truman to see his party lose control of Congress. That calls to mind McConnell ‘s favorite saying that there is no education in the second kick of a mule.

    Also, I’m not sure if Obama actually lacked good sense. His methods were toxic for the country and for our political discourse, but he made significant advances towards the goals of the radical left.

  17. Neo:
    I agree. Barring a sudden death or a complete physical collapse (and this is not the America of Woodrow Wilson or FDR) that cannot be hidden from the U.S. public, Biden will remain as a figurehead president who will as you say be a yes-man for the Progressive agenda. We need desperately to retake the House and Senate. Harris is totally unlikable and a very supercilious woman that only a California could give us.

    “Tulsi Gabbard, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you…” – please, she was a Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 and a Bashar Assad apologist.

  18. I suspect that Obama was been willing to write off electoral loses in 2010, 2014, and 2016 as a tactical retreat.

    The left is arguably in a better position today than it was in 2010,both within the Democratic Party and in the country as a whole.

  19. I had a Republican friend who was nonetheless impressed with Clinton and argued that Clinton might have been a great president if he only had had a great crisis during his administration.

    It’s possible. Clinton was bright and pragmatic. He might have risen to the occasion.

    Unfortunately Clinton was cursed with the end of the Cold War and a period of great national prosperity. Sad.

  20. Biden was the ideal candidate. He could pose as a moderate Democrat. The pandemic gave him cover for not actually campaigning. He is easily manipulated by the hard left forces in the Democrat party. They will keep propping him up and the press will help.

    Why did they choose Kamala? Race and sex – identity politics is my guess. She’s a female Obama – a good looking, clean, articulate BLACK WOMAN. Good enough for a VP running mate. But it turns out she really is not ready for prime time. Hasn’t got Obama’s charm. She has a superiority complex, which makes it impossible for her to identify with regular folks. When asked a question that she can’t answer or considers beneath her, she gives superficial answers or giggles or both. She just radiates her superiority and it shows. I call it haughtiness. She has no core principles except what will help Kamala get ahead. IMO, she is an empty suit, but if elevated to the presidency, she might be dangerously incompetent and malevolent.

  21. JJ:

    “. . .if elevated to the presidency, she might be dangerously incompetent and malevolent.”

    Dangerous incompetence does not seem to be an impediment to nomination as the D’s presidential candidate, as Biden illustrates. As for being malevolent, Obama was that, but he skated by without it being a great hindrance to his presidency. I don’t think, though, that Harris would be given the same pass that Obama was given. Mostly because as others have correctly said, she is not a likable person.

  22. J.J.

    Race and sex sure, but also she was what was basically all that was left over. I seem to remember it was between her and Stacey Abrams? I imagine Stacey Abrams lost out due to her morbid obesity.

  23. “Maybe they’re just reverting to the mean after having two generational political talents within eight years of each other in Bill and Obama.”

    It’s hard to evaluate Bill and Barack because of the slobberingly supportive media coverage both received during their campaigns and during most crises. Everybody looks great in warmups when there’s no real competition.

    I also think people need to think smaller about Biden. Now that he’s elected, there’s a bunch of people whose continued position and power are directly tied to him. Ron Klain ain’t going to be Kamala’s chief of staff.

    Mike

  24. Before day 1 of this fraud administration I predicted July 1 2021, sadly not looking good for me.
    Jack Cashill at American Thinker brought up this morning when Sundowner goes Harris will like it or not become president. And that process is a majority vote by both sides of congress. So my thinking is will they ( Democrat/ Marxists) take a chance having a Republican majority getting to vote for a Democrat Vice President?
    That would be their safe bet unless they really believe they can control voting in the entire country.

  25. So the safe bet would be having Sundowner gone before mid terms and let the standing congress pick a replacement for Harris.

  26. Clinton was a very talented politician and, but for his sexual appetites, might have done more. Once the impeachment got going, he had to run left for protection. The 1990s had a decided similarity to the 1920s. The 2008 crash was worse than 1929 and for similar reasons.

  27. Obama can control things with Biden as ‘President’ but does he thinks he can control, trust, depend on Harris as president?

  28. Skip,

    There is no way in the world that a Republican congress would fail to elevate the sitting vice president if necessary. Not just because of their beloved ‘norms’ but because it would be political suicide and rightfully so in my opinion.

  29. I too thought by July 1.
    I am struck by the fact there have been no leaks from the WH. Trump’s was a sieve.
    Harris will be Pres before 2024 though. The BO WH holdover will make her life a hell.

  30. Griffin:

    But would they select a Democrat Vice President? Sorry my bad, there is always the Romney effect.

  31. F; “I don’t think, though, that Harris would be given the same pass that Obama was given. Mostly because as others have correctly said, she is not a likable person.”

    True. However, I can name a number of unlikable Dems that get a pass from the MSM and others everyday. Adam Schiff, Swalwell, Schumer, Waters, and Nadler come to mind quickly. There are others. As FredHjr said, “It’s the Marxist/Leninist ethics of expediency. No regrets. Whatever it takes to discredit anything the other side does and excuse the sins of your own side.” Being unlikable to us is not the same as it is to them. If possible, we have to look at things through their eyes.

    Nonapod: “Race and sex sure, but also she was what was basically all that was left over. ”

    Well, wouldn’t Warren, Klobuchar, or Buttigieg been more capable choices? Surely Yang or Blomberg were capable of being VP. Even Deval Patrick would have been more capable than Kamala.
    None of the above have both qualifications – woman and black. They wanted to cover both bases. And yes, Stacy Abrams is not pleasing to the eye. However, had Kamala not been available, I think they would have gone with Abrams. They had to have a black woman. Historic, doncha know. They knew they were going to win (The fix was in.) no matter who they picked, but they wanted an historic pick for the sake of identity politics.

  32. “It will take a major public disaster to get him out. What is so interesting to me is that there are NO leaks from the WH about Joe and his daily struggles.” – Cornhead

    Griffin mentioned the NYT story, which IIRC was a puff piece that was more like “Broadway actor’s backstage aides divulge the secrets of make-up and costume rituals, review the lines one more time with the acclaimed star” rather than a “we are the only thing propping up the waxwork” — I suppose one’s biases decide which interpretation is favored.
    I suspect everyone at the WH is keeping a detailed journal for their block-buster memoirs, once whoever’s at the top decides they can’t maintain the charade any longer, and don’t want to step on their Big Reveals.

  33. om,

    Yeah they would it would be something about the new president deserves to have their choice of VP or something like that. The same line of thinking that leads to some R senators voting to confirm some of these wacko appointees.

  34. AesopFan,

    Yes, NYT piece had things like ‘Joe takes a long time to decide on things because he likes to hear all sides’ not because he lacks the mental capacity to make quick decisions.

    The other thing is when the move is finally made it will suddenly have been common knowledge all along that it was more of team effort than a ‘President Biden’ situation.

  35. “There is no way in the world that a Republican congress would fail to elevate the sitting vice president if necessary. ” – Griffin

    On the other hand, what if we prove that Biden, and thus Harris, didn’t win?
    If the evidence becomes clear before the dethronement, the political suicide aspect becomes much more problematical; but if they kick him out too soon, she loses any potential 2nd term (assuming she gets elected in 2024).
    The crystal balls must be working overtime in DC.

  36. I predicted he would be gone by the end of the year, and I see no reason to alter that. The drugs they are giving him before every public appearance work less and less well, and are likely shortening what life he has left. He looks like a cadaver.

  37. “The other thing is when the move is finally made it will suddenly have been common knowledge all along that it was more of team effort than a ‘President Biden’ situation.” – Griffin

    Exactly. The Democrats are getting very good at having their cake and eating it too.
    They admitted they did most of the shady, but not quite illegal, things the Republicans complained about, but claimed they “fortified the election” by doing them, and too many people bought the snake oil. They are doing the same thing with the belated Covid revelations, putting a Panglossian veneer on all of their partisan malfeasance.

  38. Off and on I have conversations with people about how the stock market would/will react to Biden stepping aside for whatever reason. If it’s muted or very short term sell off that would be further proof that nobody actually believes Biden is making the decisions so what will actually be different.

    Nobody left or right actually believes Biden is the president making decisions it’s all play acting that it is him in charge and everybody knows it. Well, except for Joe he might not know it.

  39. I agree that as confused as Biden sometimes appears to be in public, he has yet to fail so catastrophically that he must be replaced. I do wonder, however, about his private behavior because I’m sure that as befuddled as he appears in public, there must have been many private moments where he is much worse. Although I think he will hang on at least another 18 months, I would not be surprised if his private behavior causes enough concern for him to be ousted. A public meltdown would be very damaging to all those who supported Joe, better to get rid of him before that becomes too much of a risk.

  40. FredHJr (see Neo’s latest post), whom I fondly remember, would have had a sardonic smile had he read the comments about Dopey Joe and Kamala. He saw it all coming.
    Now we have to live with, and in, this foreseeable crap. Fred saw it all acoming!
    The results:
    The male mayor of a small city, who is the wife in his “marriage” gets a cabinet appointment because he is a “wife”. A Trans gets to be an undersecretary. Sec Def thinks our greatest danger is internal “white supremacy”, not anything extraterritorial, like China. We as a nation are going to fight “systemic racism” even though many of the 13% of us who are black, and do not like us, are killing one another at astonishing rates despite their Democratic mayors, who are defunding the police. We are admitting them to our most elite educational institutions because of their skin color and their lack of achievement. We are going once again to make deals with the ayatollahs of Iran. A senile doddering old man is elected to put his finger on the nuclear button.
    You cannot make this stuff up.
    The USA is as good as dead. Great countries are never defeated; they die from within.

  41. MBunge – Hillary in 2016 and (to a lesser extant) Kamala in 2020 received the same slobberingly supportive media coverage as Bill and Barack. Having the media in your pocket is an advantage for sure, but it still requires talent to do anything with it.

  42. Scratching at the scab is becoming a cherished “Biden” policy:
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/28/jen-psaki-defends-gwen-berry-who-turned-back-on-us-flag/

    + bonus!
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/28/scottie-pippen-accuses-phil-jackson-of-being-racist/

    Yep, all that toxic pus that “Biden” has been nurturing, encouraging and generating will soon become a torrent. A tsunami.

    …because the mark of a principled, decent and moral person is…you MUST kill the goose that lays the golden eggs…and prove your virtue by making life as miserable as possible—for others.

  43. Neo-

    I believe my original projection in a previous post was October. After watching things I believe that was slightly ambitious as I now think that is when the serious drumbeat will start.

    Had they started any sooner. They would open themselves up to the charge that they KNEW he was in-firmed. And it would have undermined their credibility too much in the mushy middle.

    Waiting roughly a year means they can claim he has rapid onset Alzheimer’s. The inner circle will start complaining a little publicly. Then turn it up near the new year. If they try to prop him up too long it will hurt their chances in the mid-terms.

    Leftists will always prop up Harris. They have the same blind spot for her as for Hillary. They can rationalize her complete lack of charisma away by using their check box system

    Woman check!
    Minority check!
    Leftist check!

    The media will try to drown it all out with how she is such a “pioneer” because of her immutable traits.

  44. It is absolutely a Wizard of Oz “reality”.

    Apparently, it’s all Ratings all the time mixed together with the need to keep the enemy off balance.

    The “That’s Entertainment” administration.

    And they continue to act as if they’re “The Greatest Show on Earth”, clowning, juggling, pirouetting, fire-breathing (and constantly lying and fantasizing) because “The show must go on!”

    The corrupt media and infotech are doing their best to protect any truth from seeping out, but at some point “Biden” is going to discover that “he” can’t keep all those plates up in the air.

    What happens when it all comes crashing down?

  45. If anyone needs any more convincing that they will try to sell us on Harris
    I suggest googling her step-daughter. Who we are supposed to believe is a “model”

    Ella Emhoff

    There are many people who are considered “unconventional” who do model. And while they have tried pushing the limits more and more. I can at least on some level admit that people may find X model I dislike attractive

    Ella Emhoff is not one of those people. She has not a single feature that in any way seems even remotely attractive. And while I realize that it is entirely subjective. I would love for anyone here. To give me any trait that appears to qualify her for that job

  46. “What happens when it all comes crashing down?”

    Barry- I think if the last two presidencies have proven anything. It is that the permanent bureaucracy is running the show. And electing someone has little effect.

    Biden clearly does not possess his faculties. And yet things seem to keep haphazardly running along.

    And Trump. The sheer number of articles about how subordinates would lie to him, ignore his orders. And straight up subvert him. Has shown us what really happening. And to me the truly crazy part is how the press applauds this behavior. Completely unaware of what that actually represents for elections and representative democracy. They simply hate Trump that much they dont care

  47. “…prop up Harris…”

    Not going to work. She’s simply too awful.

    (That’s what happens when you don’t listen to your political, um, “mentor” and instead go for the ring: Willie Brown advised her not to get involved—AKA “in over your head”—and he clearly knew what he was talking about.)

    I think the only way out for the Democrats is to devise a way for both of them to leave the scene (of the crime) together, a la Bonny and Clyde? Thelma and Louise? Harold and Maude?—and it may be just why they’ve been, of late, pushing the UFO issue so hard.

    So it could well be that we’re looking at a Close Encounters of the Third Kind scenario coming to a Press Conference near us….

  48. I don’t know.

    I imagine that in the not too distant future, there’s going to be so much to cover up that neither the Democrats nor their media adjuncts will be able to deal with the sheer volume.

    To be sure, it does help a lot if no one cares that they’re such extraordinary liars.

    And blaming Trump and the GOP can only take you so far.

    I suspect that the massive inflation that is being talked about (by everyone except Democrats) is going to be the real challenge for them. How do you cover up hyperinflation.

  49. @Mythx:

    Ella Emhoff.

    That’s one Homely-looking Bint. Homely in a Home for the Blind.

    Signed by IMG instead of any one of 2 million Ukrainian teenagers.

    Since Unmentionable Nepotism cannot exist and since she has said she’s not one anyway… then it must just be Plain Old Nepotism.

    Lives in Bushwick. Life Lived as Art.

    Used to be in Asia that the stupid younger children of the very rich would get sent of to Hotel School in Switzerland to learn how to manage the family hotels portfolio — or at least to blend in with the professional hired help. Nowadays it seems to be Parsons School of Design — Emhoff’s thing, too.

  50. “Not going to work. She’s simply too awful. ”

    Barry, I think you severely underestimate the ability of the media and the complicit bureaucracy to make her look passable.

    True she is unlikable and has the same off putting cackle that Hillary had. Along with the table shitting ability to side step questions in the most awkward way possible.
    But they have still convinced nearly 50% of the electorate that Biden has some measure of his faculties. When he is completely incapable of doing anything someone isnt telling him to. And I do not make that statement lightly. He clearly has someone directing him at every step, talking into his ear constantly. And actually physically shuffling him off stage. You can not only see it happening. But he has actually said as much on multiple occasions while speaking.

    I dont like Biden. And do not think his infirmity now somehow should convey him any sympathy. But what is happening now is clearly abusing an in-firmed senior citizen who should be receiving medical treatment. Not paraded around for the world to watch.

  51. “I suspect that the massive inflation that is being talked about (by everyone except Democrats) is going to be the real challenge for them. How do you cover up hyperinflation.”

    I doubt it. We have now reached the stage where they will simply ship money to people every year. Direct payments a few months before each election

    Even 20 years ago this was an extraordinary happening. Only occurring under very strange circumstances. Now it happens 2-3 times every year. Which only increases inflation. Which will increase the size and frequency of the next bribe.

    And due to most people’s complete ignorance of how economics works. They are unable to understand that every payment. Only worsens the problem.

  52. he provides a seemingly more benign front for their agenda (I don’t find him benign, but apparently much of the American public does, if you believe polls).

    For which the corrosively biased American “free press” gets about 95% of the credit. The American public gets the bulk of its information about politics and politicians from said press, and unless some circumstance educates one or more members of that public beyond the quackitude of the daily news, they’d all think that good ol’ Joe Biden is a fine American president.

  53. The male mayor of a small city, who is the wife in his “marriage” gets a cabinet appointment because he is a “wife”

    He isn’t. He’s the less effeminate of the two men. And he’s a passable choice for a cabinet post.

  54. ^^^ In the unlikely event that I ever become Supreme Leader, I know just who I’m going to conscript to run my Racial Classifications Department.

  55. I am struck by the fact there have been no leaks from the WH. Trump’s was a sieve.

    Why do you fancy these ‘reporters’ are above just making things up? Remember the ‘senior official’ who turned out to be a patronage appointee of no special distinction whose job was supervising the DHS secretary’s outer office (some paper flow, appointments, &c).

  56. There’s a storm brewing and once it hits, Biden, Harris and Psaki are not going to be able to credibly reassure Americans. Biden’s mumbling, Harris’ giggling and Psaki’s “circle back to that” aren’t going to cut it when crisis after crisis starts to bludgeon them.

    “Leftists Siege Biden White House, Blocking All Entrances in Demand for Climate ‘Infrastructure’ Priorities”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/28/leftists-siege-biden-white-house-blocking-all-entrances-in-demand-for-climate-infrastructure-priorities/

  57. Art & Deco

    “Why do you fancy these ‘reporters’ are above just making things up? Remember the ‘senior official’ who turned out to be a patronage appointee of no special distinction whose job was supervising the DHS secretary’s outer office (some paper flow, appointments, &c).”

    They completely manufactured for 2.5 years. An entire Russia narrative. In which 95% was a complete fantasy. Covington kid, Juicy Smolliea. It appears the vast majority of the news. Is entirely made up. Nearly every story remotely negative to Trump. Was either proven to be a complete fabrication. Or heavily redacted and revised at a later date.

    At one time Sharyl Atkinson had a very extensive list. It had reached the point that Patterico (who went off the deep end) basically kicked me off his site. When I argued that the press was a bigger adversary than Russia. My point that he seemed unable to understand. Was that its impossible to actually evaluate how dangerous Russia was. If you cannot have serious semi unbiased reporting on the subject.

    When you try to understand any subject. And all of the information is grossly distorted. Its impossible to comprehend what is happening. Its intelligence gathering 101.

  58. @GB:

    If the Fringe Left get too annoying with the Environmentalism or other stuff which might annoy the Oligarchy or distract from waging the Forever Wars, all that happens is that the Crazies get diverted into Attacking Whitey More. Basic Move. Just you wait.

  59. @BrooklynBoy: “Tulsi Gabbard . . . was . . . a Bashar Assad apologist.”

    How do you come to this conclusion?

    I know that the “Assad apologist” accusation was leveled by Kamala Harris in 2019, in retaliation for Gabbard’s having torpedoed Harris’s chances during a debate. But Gabbard has denied the accusation and explained her motives for meeting with Assad — explained them credibly, in my view.

    You seem to disagree. Why?

  60. JJ you are right that Kamala became VP because of race and sex. Or really just race because otherwise Klobuchar was a more logical pick. Not that Klobuchar is awesome either but 1) she is less irritating than Kam – ok that doesn’t narrow the field much 2) she actually won some votes in the primaries 3) she made more sense from an EV standpoint because the Midwest was a battleground while CA was in the bag.

    Derek Chauvin’s worst crime was making Kamala VP.

  61. Neither a plus nor a minus for Gabbard. Frankly she should have ignored both sides.

    It might suit Israelis to smite Bashar Assad. It does little good for anyone else. I mean Jaysus @#$^&ing Christ… what kind of moronic foreign policy supports overthrowing the only possible stable power-structure in Syria? (i.e. Alawite minority lording it over Islamic majority) — see what happened when Sunnis Minority got stomped in Iraq.

    I’m so sick of this Meddling and breaking stuff which US Foreign Policy ‘Elites’ have no understanding of.

    “They were careless people, Tom and Daisy — they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that held them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made…”

  62. I think you’re right. Slo Mo Joe is handy right where he is, the meat that’s also a vegetable. The people running things are happy with the proposition, he doesn’t argue back and can be trusted with his handlers. They have to keep him in this arrangement, because the Party machine has lost their backup plan, Kamala – she continues to disappoint and banking on her candidacy is a lost cause. They’re hoping to keep her out of sight so the public doesn’t get to know her over the next few years, because they’ll despise her when they do.

    Poor old Kamala. She’s supposed to be in line for the job, but is being kept at a distance and set up for failed public appearances and thankless jobs, just to keep her under wraps. Meanwhile, un-elected nobodies are getting to make all the decisions and partake of the heady elixirs from the Fountain Of Power. Oh, the injustice.

  63. Huxley

    Tulsi Gabbard, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you…

    Finally, someone sees the light. They just might ‘Spero Agnew’ Harris. If they don’t, Tulsi will run against her. She could win without the cheating and wouldn’t take orders from the current leadership of the Democratic Party.

  64. @JHCorcoran:

    “Finally, someone sees the light. They just might ‘Spero Agnew’ Harris.”

    Spiro.

    Dum Spiro Spero.

  65. Aggie,

    I think the public already despise Harris. Your right, she does get a lot of thankless jobs. She cannot even do those jobs well.

  66. F. Scott Fitzgerald being cited on this blog now! Look at that. 🙂

    I have sometimes wondered if there is a commemorative plaque at whatever spot on the highway out to Jamaica which Fitzgerald may have had in mind when he wrote the chapter about the fatal car accident. I suppose it wasn’t a real place, but it’s possible there might have been some kind of place like that with a garage next to the road, back in the day.

  67. Molly G

    Gabbard went to Damascus on a trip paid for by Assad supporters and when later asked if he was a Dictator and a murderer she never answered the question. Gabbard, like Glenn Greenwald is a left-wing paleocon. She also is an apologist for Maduro in Venezuela and the Iranian mullahs and let us not forget that she eventually endorsed the Drooling Idiot currently in the White House.

  68. @BrooklynBoy:

    All-Expenses Paid Trips to Middle-Eastern Countries are a Thing. I know it’s congenitally difficult, but try not to Play Favorites, now… You being a Naturalized Brooklynite and all.

    🙂

  69. Do competence and moderation really enter into it? As bad as Harris is, as much of a nullity as she is, Warren or Buttigieg or Klobuchar probably would make their share of gaffes and blunders.

    Race and gender definitely gave Harris the job, but the other choices weren’t that great either, and for all the talk elsewhere about Harris being a California radical, it seems like the script for Democratic office-holders has already written and would be followed by any vice president.

    I suspect if Biden’s team passed on Harris, they might have chosen Val Demings, rather than Stacey Abrams. Abrams would have antagonized too many people unnecessarily. Demings was something more than a left-wing icon (like Abrams), but she had been a cop literally (rather than metaphorically) like Harris, so Kamala was the logical choice

    Harris wouldn’t have to be elevated by Congress. Biden resigns (or dies or is judged incompetent by the cabinet) and she’s president. I doubt a Republican Congress would block her choice for vice president. Most of the other choices she could make would be equally bad, and Republicans wouldn’t want Pelosi a heartbeat away from the presidency until 2025.

    Also, Ron Klain or somebody else in the administration very much like him might just stay on. Harris has had trouble picking reliable people and might just decide to rely on Biden’s team for the rest of Biden’s term.

  70. Do competence and moderation really enter into it? As bad as Harris is, as much of a nullity as she is, Warren or Buttigieg or Klobuchar probably would make their share of gaffes and blunders.

    Buttigieg was an indifferent performer as Mayor of South Bend and he’s an inveterate resumé builder and resumé puffer. However, he’s actually a quondam executive, has no known history of Warren-style biographical fiction, and doesn’t have any known history of throwing heavy objects at staff members. (All three of them have more ‘g’ than Harris).

    Harris wasn’t any ‘logical choice’ and choosing Stacey Abrams – the quondam tax lawyer whose household finances are a mess – would have been another indicator of cognitive decline. Her occupational life has consisted of flitting from one thing to another and the most consequential public sector positions she’s held have been deputy corporation counsel (a patronage appointment) and state legislator.

  71. Art+Deco:
    “Biden was the ideal candidate.”

    “Rubbish.”
    Thank you good sir. May I ask which other Democrat candidate could have posed successfully as a moderate? Or do you believe the electorate was willing to vote for anyone except Orangeman Bad? Or, since they rigged the election in swing states, it didn’t matter who they nominated? I await your superior insight with bated breath.

  72. I suspect the Dems know they have a problem on their hands and are desperate to hatch a plan to replace Harris with someone more plausibly able to assume the leadership once they tire of dealing with Biden.

  73. Might not explained perfectly, Harris we and the country are stuck with, Sundowner goes quietly or grasping at everything to stay but goes Heels Up gets the Big Desk and the replacement for the VP is voted on for confirmation.

  74. May I ask which other Democrat candidate could have posed successfully as a moderate?

    You just asked. And the answer is ‘who cares’? Bernie Sanders in 2016 was polling better than Hellary against every Republican alternative. What you fancy is a marketing point isn’t.

    I do not understand what motivates fools, and that includes the fools in my own family. They were willing to cast a ballot for a grotesque crook whose cognitive decline was manifest. That there was a great deal of fraud I have little doubt, but it was atop tens of millions of people being perverse and stupid. One disaster after another we’ve seen, and they just pretend it isn’t happening.

  75. Thanks for the insight, Art+Deco. Bernie was certainly the better choice in 2020 also. Except, his socialism is well known and would be hard to disguise. Any suburban women who voted for Joe thinking he’d be middle of the road may not have found Bernie as attractive. because Bernie is very upfront about his lack of respect for suburban dwellers and anyone else who has done middling well or better.

    If the fix was in, it probably didn’t matter. Anyone would do. Unfortunately, we may never know.

    It’s still my opinion that Joe fit the needs of the party very well. He could be cast as moderate, he could be hidden in his basement because he was in the most vulnerable population for Covid-19, and he could be manipulated after he was elected. The MSM could build him up as a fictional character who would restore moderation to the country. And many LIVs and RINOs bought it. Liker you, it mystifies me as to why they did.

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