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  1. “And it has become virtually impossible to discuss these things without being accused of the dread “Islamophobia.”-Neo

    And that is exactly the point. Any discussion the left would likely lose if discussed is immediately tagged with one of their “phobias” Leaving them to set the rules of discussion every time. I think its one of the chief reasons we have Trump. This tactic simply doesn’t work on him.

  2. Unfortunately, who here in the US comes after Trump? What will stop this trend which cannot even be discussed? I’m old (67) and not in good health, so I’m not a good person to fight all this. There are some young people out there who are aware of what’s going on, for instance the author of Bronze Age Mindset, but is any of this resistance meaningful? I don’t know.

  3. Hungary’s Orban has gone even further explicitly outlawing George Soros’ entry! Snowflake blogger was carrying on about the horror of this added to not accepting muslims. * Hungary you are a disgrace to the world* was her contention. She wrote this while visiting there then she actually shared her encounter with Hungarian Jews. ( blogger must be European ad she at least is an honest writer) She asked them if they felt safe to just go about? Yes they responded no worries. ” Have you had any violence against you?
    no they said” They felt safe in Hungary & could not recall any anti Semitic violence. The poor blogger was flummoxed she chatted on but really did not know what to make of it! *and this country is so restrictive* she groused.
    Amusing read!

  4. What will stop this trend which cannot even be discussed?

    miklos000rosza: I’ve got a niece in Boston attending community college. She and her friends are fighting the SJW stuff, perhaps a bit too fearlessly. I worry about her. The other side plays awful rough.

    I think back to the 60s/70s and how oppressed young folks felt by “the Establishment.” The Panthers, SDS and Weatherfolks took some lumps, but they were violent revolutionaries. In comparison with today it’s amazing how much leeway those outside the consensus then had to speak out.

  5. Pence must succeed Trump.
    And the French? What should we make of them? They have a long history of anti-semitism. Dreyfuss, anyone? The French are the equivalent of swine, or of American Democrats. One must be in favor of murdering unborn babies in order to have standing as a Democrat, and it is not a great further leap from there to anti-Jewishness.

  6. Pence will never be elected. media will tip him apart. Plus he s too milquetoast, reminds me of mccain without mccains nasty streak.
    We need one of the crop of fiesty guys in the senate. Jim Jordan comes to mind.

  7. The Hegelian dialectic fulfills Engels “Magyar Struggle”

    Engels used the Hegelian concept of non-historic peoples to explain the course of the nationality struggle in the Habsburg monarchy, although the concept had at most descriptive validity; his argument that certain peoples were counter-revolutionary because they were non-historic was almost tautological.

    To him and most on the left Völkerabfälle

    They are taking care of the pesky history by claiming its wrong:

    This last passage, the final paragraph of Engels’ article in 1849, has fuelled accusations that this constitutes a call for genocide.

    The British Liberal historian, George Watson, for example, cited this text by Engels as evidence for his view that Hitler was a Marxist. He also participated in the conservative documentary The Soviet Story, where he uses the translation of Völkerabfälle as “racial trash”.

    The film attracted criticism from a range of people including Latvian MEP Tatjana Ždanoka, Finnish political activist Johan Bäckman and Latvian MP Boris Tsilevitch. Alexander Dyukov has provided evidence that the film relies on falsified images to give an historically inaccurate account of the Soviet Union.

    Its not historically inaccurate… but claim it enough and then what?
    The points were always more serious than people were taking them
    Not that people want to learn how things work vs talking about them…

    “All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary world storm… The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward.”
    – Friedrich Engels
    (“The Magyar Struggle,” Neue Rheinische Zeitung, January 13, 1849)

    “Surely you do not imagine that we shall be victorious without applying the most cruel revolutionary terror?”
    – V. I. Lenin
    (George Leggett, The Cheka: Lenin’s Political Police [Clarendon Press, 1981], p. 57)

    “There is nothing immoral in the proletariat finishing off the dying class… in one month at most this terror will assume more frightful forms, on the model of the great revolutionaries of France. Our enemies will face not prison but the guillotine…”
    – Leon Trotsky
    (Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution [Vintage, 1990], pp. 791-2)

    “[The Red Terror is] the extermination of enemies of the revolution on the basis of their class affiliation or of their pre-revolutionary roles.”
    – Feliks Dzerzhinsky
    (George Leggett, The Cheka: Lenin’s Political Police [Clarendon Press, 1981], p. 114)

    “Better that ten innocent people should suffer than one spy get away. When you cut down the forest, woodchips fly.”
    – Nikolai Ezhov, NKVD commander
    (Roy Medvedev, Let History Judge [Columbia University Press, 1989], p. 603)

    “Whoever protests against Jewish capitalism, gentlemen, is already a class-warrior, whether he knows it or not. You are against Jewish capitalism and want to beat down stock exchange jobbers.
    That’s all right. Stamp on the Jewish capitalists, string them up from the lamp-posts, trample them underfoot…”
    – Ruth Fischer, German communist leader
    (Mario Kessler, “Leon Trotsky’s Position on Anti-Semitism, Zionism and the Perspectives of the Jewish Question,” New Interventions, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1994)

    “People say that poverty is bad, but in fact poverty is good. The poorer people are, the more revolutionary they are.”
    – Mao Zedong
    (Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, Mao: The Unknown Story [Jonathan Cape, 2005], p. 428)

  8. I worry about this trend here, too. Just this week a Jewish man and woman were shouted at and assaulted on a train in New York by a Muslim woman screaming “Allahu akbar.” And then we have the continuing assaults on Hasidic Jews in New York, committed mostly by blacks, whether Muslim or not.

  9. MollyNH,
    please do your homework. Jim Jordan, an admirable figure, is not a Senator.
    Pence is a solid Trumper. You may find his style too gentlemanly. But McCain was a disaster as a Senator and as a candidate. He gave us McCain-Feingold, for heaven’s sake! And he refused to step down for a replacement that could vote. He did not vote, but by God he stayed a Senator despite a 100% fatal brain tumor. What a great guy!
    The media which you somehow deem still very powerful, has done its best with DJT and I expect the same from them regardless of who succeeds him as long as he’s not in a protected class, like a 1st transgender Latino president. Or a Buttigieg, whose “spouse” [choke] would be the First Husband.

  10. Huxley….”In comparison with today it’s amazing how much leeway those outside the consensus then had to speak out.”

    It is interesting and frightening to observe how almost all institutions are converging toward the same worldview point. Once upon a time, if you didn’t like the political and social attitudes in academia, you could go into the business world and things would be different. Or the other way around. Now, many corporations are imposing mental conformity to an almost academic degree. Once, you could count on the Catholic Church to present a very different view from the secular mainstream. A lot less true today. Once, sports was pretty non-political…now, highly politicized, and almost all in the approved direction. And so on.

  11. It is disappointing to give up and move away. But Euro Jews should consider America as a new home.

    Others have.

    https://ashbrook.org/publications/onprin-special-schramm/
    He said he was going to leave the country (Hungary) whether she would come or not. Mom said, “O.K., William. We will come if Peter agrees. Ask Peter.”

    My mother tells me, though I don’t remember saying this, that I told my father I would follow him to hell if he asked it of me. Fortunately for my eager spirit, hell was exactly what we were trying to escape and the opposite of what my father sought.

    “But where are we going?” I asked.

    “We are going to America,” my father said.

    “Why America?” I prodded.

    “Because, son. We were born Americans, but in the wrong place,” he replied.

  12. JimNorCal – I have always loved that story, but the way things are going in the USA, we may soon have Jews moving back to Hungary for safety.

  13. Opps sorry about jordan but he is gutsy and, young & appealing. Pence just can t do it, you have a right to disagree but….no way I can see him doing it
    Media will stir up fear of evangelicals apply it to him & his wife & he will be toast.

  14. In America, the Jewish people would generally be safest in a strong , conservative evangelical area, as long as they don’t mind getting witnessed to by evangelicals. Though “safe” is a relative word these days, the way society is in decay.

  15. AesopFan, yes, I’ve read that Hungary has become one of the safest Euro countries. Lots fewer Muslims.

    I had the pleasure of visiting Poland a few years ago and hope I get the opportunity to visit Hungary one day.

  16. I was able to visit France once in 1974, German that year and again in 2000 and 2017.
    Let’s just say I will treasure my memories.

  17. It’s not well-known but Martians have visited Earth, mated with Earth women, and left offspring behind in Budapest:

    The Hungarian scientists were seemingly superhuman in intellect, spoke an incomprehensible native language, and came from a small obscure country. This led to them being called Martians, a name they jocularly adopted.

    The joke was that Hungarian scientists are actually descendants of a Martian scout force which landed in Budapest around the year 1900, and later departed after the planet was found unsuitable, but leaving behind children by several Earth women, children who all became the famous scientists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)

  18. People who are Jewish, or even Jew-ish, often wonder who would hide them in the event.

    My uncle survived because my mother hid him in a barrel of manure. My aunt was shot by the farmer who hid her when she ran out of money. And those are the good stories.

    The situation has gotten very bad when a barrel of manure becomes your best bet.

  19. “Islamophilia” is a much bigger threat both in Western Europe and the US than non-existent “Islamophobia”.

  20. It’s important to understand that antisemitism is only the leading edge. The folks bringing that old horror back are also bringing with them a host of other illiberal ideas including a thoroughgoing contempt for individual liberties.

    Mike

  21. MBunge: Jews are today, as they have been many times before, the canary in the coal mine. When Jews are threatened for being Jews, they may well be the first targets; they are not the last.

    AesopFan: my wife and I spent two weeks in Paris in 2008. We had just read Mark Steyn’s “America Alone” together, and it was on our minds.

    The signs were subtle, but they were everywhere. The great Synagogue was an armed fortress. A smaller neighborhood synagogue was very cleverly hidden in a residential neighborhood; inside it was gorgeous, and the congregants warm and welcoming, but from the outside it was very difficult to find, even if you had the correct street address. And my wife and I noticed that, while we often saw French couples promenading with small children, most had one child; a handful had two. The couples with three or more children were all Muslim… all of them.

    We are again entering a period of time when Jews will find it healthy to be paranoid. Stay in training… and keep your powder dry.

  22. Well, Europe is “cutting-edge” in all kinds of ways, where France and Germany are eternally vying with one another for supremacy (in this case, which country will implode first).

    Meanwhile, the Netherlands is typically “cutting-edge” in Europe.
    https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/12/netherlands-banks-impose-cash-machine-curfews-following-uptick-in-explosion-thefts/
    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/10/10/immigrant-crime-has-turned-the-netherlands-into-a-narco-state/

    Of course this couldn’t possibly happen in North America…
    https://nationalpost.com/news/former-ndp-candidate-stripped-of-human-rights-award-after-comparing-israel-to-nazi-germany
    https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2019/12/19/radical-speakers-on-agenda-for-toronto-islamic-conference/

  23. It has become virtually impossible to win an election in France without now counting on the Muslim vote.

    So much for LePen.

    I have Naziphobia, Communistphobia, and Islamophobia. I’ve never been healthier!

  24. I recall a rule of thumb from, maybe, Richard Spencer at JihadWatch that when Muslims are only a few percent of the population, it’s OK. But when Muslims reach 10% of the population they start flexing their Sharia/Jihad muscles in earnest.

  25. Regarding immigration… Many French Jews are already moving to Israel. We are in the midst of a growing wave of French immigration similar to the arrival of Jews when the Soviet Union fell apart.

    Regarding the Left… One must recall that Europe is post-Judeo-Christian in a way that America is not. This is signified not just by the decimation of family and community (facilitated by soft socialism) but by attitudes to abortion and euthanasia (which also started with the Nazis and socialists).

    In a very real sense, Hitler won the long war of values in Europe. The judeo-christian heart that animated the political body of the free West has been ripped out, leaving a zombie West that goes through the motions of humanist democracy yet no longer seems to understand or believe in its own history and values.

  26. In today’s WSJ:
    The Catholic Church must adopt new approaches to evangelization in a post-Christian West, Pope Francis said in a Christmas message.

    In a post-Christian West! He said.

    The West is burying its own Christianity, the most civilizing force for good of the last 2000 years. Jesus taught that the exalted shall be humbled and the humble shall be exalted, AND the world took it to heart!

    But no longer. Look at the snakes and worms we have pretending to be Catholic Christians, like the Kennedys and the Bidens, breaching their faith to receive communion.

    Electing this Pope is part of the degenerative process, a pope that worries more about global warming than the eternal warming of souls.

  27. As long as Jews’ avg IQ of about 115 remains the top of ethnic IQs, and their success at business, science, and writing remains so obvious, they will attract the envious.
    Envy – the desire to bring down those above you.
    Envy is the terrible sin which leads to genocide.

    “Chopping the tall poppies” is the phrase used by Hutus in Rwanda to murder the physically taller Tutsis, who also have somewhat higher IQs, and were (are?) clearly more successful, on average.

    Socialism thrives on envy, and fans the flames of envy. Every post-WWII professor who supports socialism is feeding envy. Every scientist, and perhaps most especially every writer, even that most oft-quoted “anti-communist” writer George Orwell, all those who call themselves socialists or support socialism, are feeding envy.

    Communism and socialism have been intellectually fed by many socialist Jews, and Zionism is a nationalist and socialist movement. Since the 6-day war in ’67, the practical Israeli Jews have mostly moved away from too much socialism, but there remains a huge Jewish push towards a secular neo-religious socialism.

    Funny sad sad that so many super-intelligent Jews so completely accept and support socialism, which itself feeds envy which inevitably boomerangs against the more-successful-than average Jews.

    Few Christian girls are raped or harassed by Jewish men, unlike the many girls who are raped by Muslims. Yet leftist feminists, Socialists in France, Democrats in America, support more Muslim immigration. Including many feminist Jews.

    The Jews should leave France, and Germany, and most European countries who are accepting Muslim Jew-hating immigrants.

    I’m sad that many in Slovakia also believe in anti-Jewish conspiracies, despite so very very few left in Slovakia. Bratislava does a nice Jewish museum, and a national monument Jewish cemetery, as well as a city monument where the commies tore down the biggest city Synagogue “to build a highway”.

    Many people want to hate some other people, and the Jews are always “other”. In America, those who want to hate are mostly Dems, and they hated Reagan, hated Bush, and now hate hate hate Trump. and all who voted for him.

  28. I don’t this alone makes me a good person. I suppose diversity does have benefits. I am Italian Catholic. I was surprised about when I turned 9 to find out people hated Jews for being Jews. I was like, “Really?”

    I had been playing with Jews and Chinese kids my entire life. It made me angry somebody could think something was wrong with then.

  29. Actually the Chinese kids kicked my @$$. Some of them were just crazy. The rest just gave me a side kick to the belly when we played football. And I was like, “That’s not foitball.” And they were like, “Suck it up white devil.”

    Other than that we got along. Even after the time I vomited in their kitchen garbage can because I thought the Chasu Bao, the BBQ pork bun, was a jelly donut.

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