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Brazilian elections: leading candidate Bolsonaro stabbed — 11 Comments

1. I rereading Malachi Martin’s Vatican novels to refresh my memory of his observations. He was a priest in the Vatican, educated by Jesuits, and was released from his vows to become a full time writer. He had a meeting with John Paul II when working on another book but had a fall in his apartment causing a fatal head injury before the book was completed. His novels are considered to be roman a clef accounts of life in the Vatican with the protagonists thinly disguised.

   The KGB, through the Bulgarian secret police, arranged the attempted assassination of the Pope. One of Martin’s novels alleged that John Paul I was assassinated by the KGB and that is the reason why Karol Józef Wojtyla chose the name.

   I attended mass said by JPII in Rome late in his life.

2. Mike K:

   They say that JPII never really recovered from the shooting, and that it undermined his health ever after that and prematurely aged him.

3. TommyJay’s link to American Thinker article brought up some interesting ideas.

   https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/scary_parallels_between_president_trump_and_that_candidate_who_got_stabbed_in_brazil.html

   “The country does have a sense of being special, similar to the U.S., and with the shambles described above, it saw that specialness eclipsed and smothered by the rule of the left.

   It’s obvious that the country was looking for an outsider – and it found one, in Bolsonaro, whose slogan was “guns up” and who has vowed to wipe out drug-dealers the way President Trump has vowed to halt illegal immigration. He’s also defended the Brazilian military junta of the 1970s and 1980s, which, up until now, with the aid of the Castro propaganda machine, has been painted as completely evil, when in remembered reality, it was a mixed bag. Bolsonaro’s been the frontrunner in Brazil’s polls since Aug. 9, and he’s very much an outsider, given that he can’t even get state money for televised campaign ads and has to do all his campaigning by social media and in person.

   Sound familiar? Check out the social media presence of Bolsonaro on this Economist chart, and note that Trump’s social media presence was just as prominent. Note also that Trump did high-energy in-person rallies during his campaigns as his rival, Hillary Clinton, stumbled around with health problems and ignored warnings from her own successful husband Bill that she had to get to rallies in Wisconsin.

   Meanwhile, the left screamed about how unacceptable it all was, and what a clown these rightward populist outsiders were and assumed its rice bowl was safe. The press, meanwhile, billed the populist candidate as “far right” to create the impression that his views had no currency with sane people.
   …
   There is one non-parallel worth noting, which may make the outcome of the Brazilian election different from America’s: Lula got punished for his crimes. No one in the Obama administration ever did. So it could be that the anger will dissipate more easily in Brazil. On the other hand, the scandals, trauma, and bad economy were far greater than in the U.S. Also, the trend is our friend these days, and nearly all of Latin America (save Mexico, which nevertheless elected an outsider from the left) has pretty well absorbed the Venezuelan horror and swung rightward. The winds seem to be blowing in Bolsonaro’s direction, but nothing is certain except that this is an election to watch.

   What it does show for us in the states is that President Trump is far from physically safe. Every effort from citizens and law enforcement agencies alike should be mobilized against the crazies who would do him harm, because we know they are out there – especially because (as the Bolsonaro and Scalise cases show) they are on the left.”

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   I don’t know enough to comment on the remark about the junta; does anyone else have insider information?
   Given the recent decade, I don’t believe anything written in any newspaper except the date, and I bet some of them get that wrong.

4. They say that JPII never really recovered from the shooting, and that it undermined his health ever after that and prematurely aged him.

   He lived another 24 years and kept a vigorous schedule. His problem in his last years was Parkinson’s.

5. But Reuters is a neutral observer, you betcha.
   Every statement about Bolsonaro may have been true, but all were negative — some extremely so; certainly the charges against him should be examined, but is there nothing this man has done that had a positive effect?
   Very much the way that our media just can’t bring itself to say anything good about President Trump.

   And why in the world would anyone want to be a politician in Brazil these days?
   Which is obviously the state of mind desired by the assassins.

   https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-election-bolsonaro/brazil-far-right-candidate-bolsonaro-in-serious-condition-after-stabbing-idUSKCN1LM2YJ

   “Bolsonaro faces trial before the Supreme Court for speech that prosecutors said incited hate and rape. He has called the charges politically motivated.

   Political violence is rampant in Brazil at the local level.

   For instance, in the months before 2016 city council elections in Baixada Fluminense, a hardscrabble region the size of Denmark that surrounds Rio de Janeiro, at least 13 politicians or candidates were murdered before ballots were cast.

   Earlier this year, Marielle Franco, a Rio city councilwoman who was an outspoken critic of police violence against slum residents, was assassinated.

   But violence against national political figures, even in the extremely heated political climate that has engulfed Brazil in recent years, is rare.”

6. Art Deco:

   I thought he declined closer to the shooting, but I guess it was somewhat later. He certainly had a rough recovery, though.

7. ” His problem in his last years was Parkinson’s.”

   Yes, he was pretty hunched over when I saw him.

   Don’t forget a Mexican presidential candidate was assassinated a few years ago.

   1994. to be exact and he was leading.

   I just hope Trump keeps some personal bodyguards around. I don’t trust the Secret Service after all the hijinks with Obama and the female agent saying she “would not take a bullet” for Trump.

8. It is very likely that there will be at least one attempt to assassinate djt. There are millions of angry crazied people who want Trump dead.

9. Mike K & Parker–I agree with both of you about Trump needing extra protection, and why.

10. Mike K
    One of Martin’s novels alleged that John Paul I was assassinated by the KGB and that is the reason why Karol Józef Wojtyla chose the name.

    Murder in the Vatican: The CIA and the Bolshevik Pontiff makes the case that John Paul I was a Bolshevik plant from the beginning of his entry into seminary, and that the CIA murdered him.
    His parents made an interesting pair.

    Albino Luciani was born into dire poverty in a small village in the Italian Alps to a scullery maid and a migrant worker.
    His mother was a devout Catholic who prayed before crucifixes made of bits of wood. She told him the only path to heaven was on his knees in prayer.
    His father was a social revolutionary atheist who often burned his mother’s crucifixes in the stove. He told him the only path to heaven was on his feet helping others.

    Interesting reading. There is a story of his rooming in seminary with a Russian who told how, in contrast to Italy, the government took care of homeless children. The book doesn’t bother to point out that was a myth, considering that the Civil War and famine created many more homeless children in the Soviet Untion than Italy had, and homeless children in the Soviet Union, when placed into government institutions, invariably tried to flee.

11. This is what happens to people who overthink things and try to change the world when they are not part of the cabals.

    Trum will be lucky if he exits office alive and not end up like Nixon or specifically JFK.

    Mike K on September 7, 2018 at 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm said:
    I rereading Malachi Martin’s Vatican novels to refresh my memory of his observations. He was a priest in the Vatican, educated by Jesuits, and was released from his vows to become a full time writer. He had a meeting with John Paul II when working on another book but had a fall in his apartment causing a fatal head injury before the book was completed. His novels are considered to be roman a clef accounts of life in the Vatican with the protagonists thinly disguised.

    The KGB, through the Bulgarian secret police, arranged the attempted assassination of the Pope. One of Martin’s novels alleged that John Paul I was assassinated by the KGB and that is the reason why Karol Józef Wojtyla chose the name.

    I attended mass said by JPII in Rome late in his life.

    I am almost finished reading Malachi Martin’s Windswept House. Very interesting inside look at the Vatican, the Church of Rome, from a first hand primary source account that is also a believer.

    It reminds me of Chiniquy, the person that lost trust in the Vatican and had to be saved by Abraham Lincoln.

    I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake the same.

    I do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness’ agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals’ doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, regal or otherwise.

    I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church’s interest, to keep secret and private all her agents’ counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.

    I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.

    That I may go to any part of the world withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.

    I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants’ heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.-Oath

    “My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order’s] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola.”
    John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)

    “Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [Thomas J. Campbell]. …Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection.” (1987)

    J.E.C. Shepherd (Canadian historian)

    Abraham Lincoln
    Abraham Lincoln

    This [American Civil] war [of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and the North on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis [President of the Confederacy] nor anyone of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promises of the Jesuits, that under the mask of Democracy, the money and arms of the Roman Catholic, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us. I pity the priests, the bishops and monks of Rome in the United States, when the people realize that they are, in great part, responsible for the tears and the blood shed in this war. I conceal what I know on that subject from the knowledge of the nation, for if the people knew the whole truth, this war would turn into a religious war, and it would at once take a tenfold more savage and bloody character. It would become merciless as all religious wars are. It would become a war of extermination on both sides.”
    — Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States)
    “The Jesuits…are a secret society – a sort of Masonic order – with superadded features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous.”
    — Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States)

    “The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses.”–Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821

    The Jesuits…are simply the Romish army for the earthly sovereignty of the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for emperor…that’s their ideal. …It is simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination – something like a universal serfdom with them [i.e., the Jesuits] as masters – that’s all they stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps.”
    —Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1821-1881; Russian novelist)

    The organization of the [Roman Catholic] Hierarchy is a complete military despotism, of which the Pope is the ostensible [i.e., apparent; seeming] head; but of which, the Black Pope [Ed. Note: The Superior General of the Jesuits], is the real head. The Black Pope is the head of the order of the Jesuits, and is called a General [i.e., the Superior General]. He not only has command of his own order, but [also] directs and controls the general policy of the [Roman Catholic] Church. He [the Black Pope] is the power behind the throne, and is the real potential head of the Hierarchy. The whole machine is under the strictest rules of military discipline. The whole thought and will of this machine, to plan, propose and execute, is found in its head. There is no independence of thought, or of action, in its subordinate parts. Implicit and unquestioning obedience to the orders of superiors in authority, is the sworn duty of the priesthood of every grade…”
    — Brigadier General Thomas M. Harris He wrote the book, “Rome’s responsibility for the assassination of Abraham Lincoln” – which exposes the work of the Jesuits

    “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist [i.e., Catholic] or Protestant, is likely to breed social disturbance.”–Lord Palmerston, a British statesman who served twice as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century.

    Malachi martin’s 3-5 interviews with Art Bell on coast to coast is available on youtube.

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