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  1. How many Republicans were just voting against Hillary in the 2016 election?

    How do those voters translate into GOP votes this election, when the issue isn’t Hillary?

    While some Trump skeptics have been pleasantly surprised by the conservative results of his administration, I suspect they secretly long for some reason, at some point, to shout, AHA, for some disappointment to reaffirm they were right all along in their skepticism.

    Leftist trolls frequenting the comments, accuse many regular commenters of their Trumpism, though the ardent Trump supporters were few. Recognizing some Trump victory, or gain, must always be prefaced by the obligatory admission of some Trump defect to counterbalance the good.

    I suspect President Trump, whose energy makes me tired, will have a net positive effect for the GOP, but don’t expect the polls to reflect that. His support, in the main, will be recalcitrant to be expressed.

    Enthusiasm for Trump will be measured by results– and a big red sticking point that, while not any fault of his, is the WALL. The goPe is busy building their own wall protecting open borders.

    I wonder if President Trump’s approval ratings that slid past 50% recently were influenced by his statement that he would risk a government shutdown over the next spending bill if it doesn’t contain funding for a border wall?

    I think this issue, as much as the economy and jobs, resonates across parties and unfortunately to many in the goPe refuse to recognize that.

  2. Elementary, my dear Watson.

    Visceral, insane hatred is much more motivating than is enthusiastic contentment.

  3. Brian E on August 8, 2018 at 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm said:
    How many Republicans were just voting against Hillary in the 2016 election?

    How do those voters translate into GOP votes this election, when the issue isn’t Hillary?
    * * *
    Good point, but the issue is always Hillary because the Democrats thought she was the “best available candidate” and they are just looking for a newer copy.

    Some good news —
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/08/socialist-torchbearers-flame-out-in-key-races-despite-blitz-by-bernie-sanders-and-ocasio-cortez.html

  4. A few more posts from Doc Zero, because I think he has the Left pegged in terms of their operating procedures, which affect how they run campaigns and influence elections.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1022829823717244928.html

    “The Kavanaugh SCOTUS nomination is a great example of how the Democrats dig in and fight on everything, even lost causes, whereas Rs give up instantly. The GOP doesn’t understand how to make the other side pay a political price for EVERYTHING.
    The Dems know they have little chance of stopping Kavanaugh, although it’s not impossible. What they CAN do is hysterically smear and slime him to make the GOP victory costly. They made him into a “controversial” nominee overnight.
    Much of what the Dems are saying is hilariously overwrought and downright absurd, but don’t laugh – they did what they set out to do.”

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1020278451192901633.html
    “By the way, in case anyone hasn’t figured it out yet, a big part of the push for higher minimum wages is a *deliberate* effort to destroy jobs and drive up unemployment. That’s not a bug – it’s a feature.”

  5. The Ohio special election win by the GOP means there will be a red wave in November.

    There. See how easy that was?

  6. I believe MJR is spot on.

    I feel those who voted for Trump are little too content; it’s theirs to lose and (D)’s and progs have the voting history – and are socially relentless – to consistently push for what they want even if they are the minority, and even if the issues they push do not speak of the wider reality.

    (D)’s and progs were denied their Utopia when Trump was elected where a sizeable inch was given to them when Obama was elected. This pas election got then confused yet unreasonably angry. The children and teenagers want what they want and they aren’t going to stop till they get it.

    Content Trump voters need to not be content. Borrow a page out of the prog playbook and be socially relentless.

  7. GRA: Your comment is spot-on, but there’s one silver lining. Democrats seem to turn out less for mid-terms. Yes, they’re panties are all in a knot over Trump, but a lot of them won’t bother until it’s time to defeat him directly.

    Regardless, go out and vote.

  8. People are really too obsessed with Trumps behavior instead of his results. Kinda like the ‘not the right kind of black man’ argument.

  9. @ CJ: Well I hope you’re right.

    @ Aurelian: The anti-Trump rhetoric is bunkers. A sibling and I were at a pub eating dinner where the conversation turned into politics. He outright said, without any shame and hesitation, that he wanted Trump and his family publicly executed – a beheading actually – that he had no faith in the country because they’re all stupid (because they voted for Trump), and that he’d follow Justin Trudeau in a heartbeat.

    I expressed disagreement and he shot a few cuss words my way calling me, well, stupid. The conversation stopped there.

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