What’s up with these New York AGs?
Another one bites the dust, amidst accusations by former lovers:
New York Attorney General Schneiderman follows the trail of infamy taken by once-esteemed New York politicians Eliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner when his resignation takes effect today amid accusations of sexual misconduct.
The claims against Schneiderman, a champion of the #MeToo movement and outspoken warrior against sexual harassment and abuse, include violent abuse…
Later Monday, Schneiderman said he would resign Tuesday after The New Yorker detailed allegations from four women who say he slapped, choked and degraded them. Schneiderman, 63, acknowledged engaging in role-playing “in the privacy of intimate relationships” but denied assaulting anyone or engaging in non-consensual sex.
So at the very least Schneiderman seems to have been into rough sex, which is not illegal if both parties are consenting adults. The women, however, say this was not the least bit consensual.
The article was by Jane Mayer and Ronan Farrow,the latter of course being the guy who revealed the Weinstein story. Once again, the New Yorker (a very liberal magazine) has decided that the exposure of the alleged abuse of women by a powerful man trumps (if you’ll pardon the expression) the protection of an influential liberal.
And oh, the irony and possible hypocrisy:
Schneiderman was outspoken in his criticism of Harvey Weinstein, the now-disgraced, one-time giant of filmmaking accused by numerous women of sexual harassment and assault. In February, Schneiderman’s office filed suit against Weinstein and The Weinstein Co. alleging sexual harassment and discrimination carried out by Harvey and his top lieutenants.
Is Schneiderman guilty? Those of you who are regular readers know that I don’t ascribe to “believe the women”—or “believe the men,” for that matter. I don’t believe or disbelieve people based on the sexual (or racial, or religious, or…) category to which they belong. I don’t know enough about this story to say I am absolutely certain one way or the other, although I did read the New Yorker article and I do lean towards the “most likely guilty” side.
More:
Selvaratnam [one of the named accusers] describes Schneiderman as “a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” figure, and says that seeing him lauded as a supporter of women has made her “feel sick,” adding, “This is a man who has staked his entire career, his personal narrative, on being a champion for women publicly. But he abuses them privately. He needs to be called out.”
I will say this: the stories told in the article are believable, and they allege a common pattern of behavior that involves very heavy drinking (“a bottle and a half of wine, or more” regularly) and some sedative abuse by Schneiderman. That’s a toxic combination that can not only markedly impact behavior, cloud judgement, and/or release inhibitions, but it can impair memory. It may be that Schneiderman doesn’t even remember any of it—a guess I do not offer as any sort of excuse whatsoever on his part.
The two named women (there are four in all, but only two have revealed their identities) seem to have no political ax to grind (they are “progressive feminist” Democrats). However, they are Scheniermann exes, so they may have personal reasons to want to get him into trouble, and also (although they are alleged to move in different social circles) they have friends in common and “have become aware of each other’s stories”—presumably before they read those stories in the New Yorker. None reported the abuse to police, but that’s not surprising, since they also allege that Schneiderman threatened them. After all, as one of them is quoted in the article as saying: “What do you do if your abuser is the top law-enforcement official in the state?”
What, indeed.
Well, one thing you do is to talk to Ronan Farrow. And today, as a result, Schneiderman has resigned.
Is this also another case of the Trump curse?
What unmanly moral vermin.
This piece of metro-sexual shit, admits to a little consensual role playing as if it is just part of his recreational sex repertoire, as if it is just what the Weiner-kind does, and that’s the end of it.
His excuse for a crime is another kind of comical turpitude, or at least shameful … what … “dweebishness”, “contemptibl-ity”? But, no shame. No self-awareness.
And this dog imagines that he qualifies as a moral and political peer?
Oh wait; no, no he doesn’t. He sees himself not as a political equal, but at the least – in Cuomo’s famous words – a shepherd, or perhaps better, as a “master”, as he informed the female he was using as a discharge receptacle to refer to him.
These people’s tastes, what they are in their innermost being, disqualify them for inclusion and life in a self-governing republic: one wherein political self-government with a capital “S” is conditioned upon the capacity for individual self-government, aka “virtue” spelled with a lower case “s”.
At least, as far as I can tell, Cosby never beat up any of the women he was involved with. The male-female relationship thing seems to have gotten much worse since Cosby’s days. Old time Hollywood was not chaste but it seems not to have been the mosh pit of today.
Wadda ya expect? Just remember that Congressman Anthony Weiner, aka, Carlos Danger, was Senator Chuck Schumer’s chosen successor to Bloomberg as mayor of NYC. Once you internalize that, New York politics becomes clear. Who needs the Mafia? Wanna play?
Lest anyone accuse me of being a kill-joy and mocking their favorite ways of defining themselves at the deepest levels of human mystery when they dress up in crotchless pirate costumes, blah, blah blah …
The real point is that these private perversities, or peccadilloes, if you prefer a more civil and 1960s term, somehow seem to inevitably ooze out into the public arena and cannot be cordoned off completely.
This is no doubt because there is no sharp distinction between what a man thinks he can get away with, or feels a need or compulsion to experience out of public sight, and what he eventually manifests to one degree or another, perhaps subliminally, perhaps through displacement, or as in this case through “reaction formation”[I think it’s called] , in public, as citizen.
Whether he’s fighting for “free expression” because he really wants sodomite marriage; pleading for Christian compassion because he is enamored with Marx, or publicly harrowing the harlots because he lusts for them, it is all socially bad, and all the outcropping of their internal moral diseases.
Why won’t these damned perverts, just … go …. away … ?
I have read some other items where the women’s friends implored them to keep quiet since Schneiderman was too important to the progressive cause. Better overall to take one for the team.
I don’t think it is just the New York Attorneys General. Look at the people that New Yorkers elect! Clinton, DeBlasio, Weiner, Spitzer, the list goes on and on. New York needs better, smarter citizens.
I read part of that New Yorker article this morning and I had to stop for the sake of my mental stability.
I have an open question for all the women readers here:
How long would you have to be choked, spit on, humiliated, forced to imbibe large quantities of liquor and hounded for three-way sex before you realized that this particular Prince Charming may not be the guy for you?
What the hell is going on when “Harvard educated” women don’t know how to leave the situations that they are describing in this article? I mean that sincerely. What the hell is going on?
Schneiderman sounds like a despicable man who needs to go away and learn how to act like a human being. And I really do get why women find it difficult to leave an abuser when they have children and can’t support themselves. I am more interested in why these women continued to take this abuse from someone that they weren’t tied to legally.
Is it strictly transactional relationships that these women are into? Then I suggest starting a Pros & Cons list to figure out if it’s really worth it.
Janet –
To answer your question, “How long would you have to be choked, etc.?”
Not long at all. I would have been outa there in a New York minute. There would have been no more communication with him and I would have gone straight to the cops. Yes, I know he’s the top cop but someone has to do what’s right. I’ll bet that there are a few other women who may or may not publicly add their names to Schneiderman’s list of victims.
I just want to know what Trump knew in 2013. As a non-drinker, he probably heard/saw lots of interesting things in his time in New York.
I am convinced that there is no way to underestimate the nihilistic shallowness of some portion of the human population, for whom “fame” or “glamor” or some association with either, provides the ONLY meaning in their essentially pre-human chimp troop psychologies. A psychology wherein attention and acceptance is all, and only death, darkness, and a meaningless void exist outside the mutual grooming circle.
Neo has remarked on one element of it, the positive feelings portion of it which accrue to some persons who lose themselves, and apparently their anxieties as individuals, in the so-called circle dance.
Where acceptance in the circle dance is not available, fame, or attention, some other kind of specialness, which proves acceptability will substitute.
As I have already said, my judgment is that it is essentially an atavistic impulse; but one which at the same time constitutes the essence of the political progressive’s, or atheistic materialist’s take on the fundamental need of humans in a godless and meaningless world: to be included in. It is the only place where the “light shines” and they are “known” for a little while at least. Even if it is a meaningless and temporary and rather wan luminescence.
This struck me forcibly after reading some comments by complaining progressives. I had already encountered the basic idea in sources as disparate as heroic poetry [famously (pun intended) in the Illiad] and modern French philosophy.
But it was the inadvertently revealing complaints of campus and other snowflakes regarding socially “being invisible” and not sufficiently “appreciated” by the society around them, which exposed some of these particular core values: inclusion, attention, and participation which made their existences mean something to themselves.
If no one has any use for them, they have no use for themselves. Inclusion is for them, the sign they are more than nothing. It is pathetic, it is unChristian, it is submoral in some sense. But it is where large numbers of people are, psychologically.
Hard to decide with is most disgusting.
His treatment of the women, their inexplicably choosing to remain with or return to him, or the supplications of their well-meaning friends not to expose a valuable progressive figure for the abusive and dangerous scum that he is.
In the 1930s there were plenty of committed Communists who went to the Soviet Union to “build Socialism” and wound up arrested by the secret police instead. With luck, their family got to visit them in the Lubyanka prison before they disappeared forever. One of the self deluding excuses the prisoners would give, “It’s for the good of the Party”. The women who told Schneideman’s victims to shut up are no different except it’s the Democrat party.
Powerline linked to this 2015 City Journal piece about Schneiderman:
https://www.city-journal.org/html/inspector-gotcha-13735.html
The guy is a sleaze. Plus there is a new piece up at City Journal on him.
Trump Curse stopped updating in March.
Don Surber has the complete Trump Effect List, up to 57, here
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/05/new-york-attorney-general-feels-trump.html
The progressive females will always support a progressive male no matter how sleazy he is. Remember how the National Organization of Women was demonstrating in the streets against Clarence Tomas because he supposedly harassed Anita Hill? However when news of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky came out, the NOW just shrugged and said, so what? If I recall correctly one of the NOW women even offered to service Bill. If it weren’t for double standards, the progressives wouldn’t have any standards.
@Janet, not my cup of tea for sure but maybe some of these Harvaard educated Dummycrats were lookin for a
Pay Day.
if you thought that liberals would be ashamed of their party on a day when such a prominent democrat was implicated in such an heinous crime, you were wrong. I stumbled upon a message left by a liberal on reddit last night saying she was proud of being a democrat because unlike republicans like Moore at least democrats would have the courage to resign immediately when they got exposed of sexual assaults. talk about being completely unhinged and delusional, democrats are notorious for refusing to apologize and resign and staying as long as they could doing everything they could to cover up the crimes until when they absolutely have to resign.
Neo talked before about education and the circle dance — and how there is such a need to be “included”.
Without a better God, the worship of PC inclusion, for the self-chosen who are saved, does seem to explain a lot about the PC bully cult.
Another aspect is Alpha Male game. Donald Trump, the p-grabbing caricature, is almost exactly like so many of these Mucky muck Dem sleazeballs, except Trump has more self control and a more genuine normal person touch. Yet many lovelies, Harvard & no-name coeds alike, are more willing to sleep with & put up with the high status males.
I hope all the sleazeballs get outed and get out of their high status jobs. I’m a bit sorry for the not-guilty who get overly punished, a bit — yet most of those who sleep around for casual sex should be careful about hurting the feelings of less-empowered-than-they-believed women who, in many (not all) cases, can’t stop themselves from being more attracted, sexually, to the higher status men. Actually, maybe none can stop the feeling of attraction, but only some seem able to control their actions and not sleep with high status guys who hit on them.
#MeToo #SheKnew #SheProgressed
It’s not just babies that were sacrificed for social, political, and financial progress. Female chauvinism is not friendly to men or women.
“None reported the abuse to police, but that’s not surprising, since they also allege that Schneiderman threatened them. After all, as one of them is quoted in the article as saying: “What do you do if your abuser is the top law-enforcement official in the state?”
What, indeed.
Well, one thing you do is to talk to Ronan Farrow. ” — Neo
But they didn’t talk to Farrow until much, much later.
The New Yorker piece is harrowing (or should I say, Farrowing?), and I am somewhat surprised they even published it, given the penchant of MSM to double-down and protect their own tribe – so, good on them for that much.
In context, the fear of the Law not listening to them was to me the least surprising reason for not blowing the whistle on him — it’s an obvious and rational fear.
The comments above pretty much cover the real problem with the victims, which is that most of them were willing participants in the covering up, even if they didn’t like what Schneiderman did to them.
This is the best summation –
OlderandWheezier Says:
May 8th, 2018 at 3:53 pm
Hard to decide with is most disgusting.
His treatment of the women, their inexplicably choosing to remain with or return to him, or the supplications of their well-meaning friends not to expose a valuable progressive figure for the abusive and dangerous scum that he is.
vanderleun Says:
May 8th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Trump Curse stopped updating in March.
Don Surber has the complete Trump Effect List, up to 57, here
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/05/new-york-attorney-general-feels-trump.html
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Love it!
Cue theme from “The Twilight Zone.”
Janet asked?
Search on the terms “Harvard Sex Week” and it may just help clear things up. Not like there aren’t enough drunken hook-ups throughout the school year, but apparently Sex Week is when they really try to indoctrinate the “students” into kinky sex.
You have a supply-side problem and a demand-side problem. The supply-side problem is that the quality of New York’s political class sinks pari passu with the quality of human being we produce in New York. People born after 1938 are gross and shabby on average in manner and degree unusual among older cohorts. New York voters don’t winnow by voting scum out of office when they have the opportunity. The New York electorate is perfectly demobilized and political life goes on with little input from them. A disaffected official described the politics of Albany thus: “Business Opportunities for Insiders”. You can say a few things on New York’s behalf: (1) the public sector pension system is actuarially sound; (2) the court system isn’t nearly as dysfunctional as it is in Arizona or Oklahoma or Florida; (3) the NYPD is a police force which knows how to do its job, big time; (4) the state has one of the least bloated and least hyped public college systems in the country, and has eschewed the idea that state universities are built to house sports teams; (5) the DMV is a vastly better agency than it was 35 years ago. There is health in us sometimes. Not sure what the rhyme or reason is.
Harvard produces porn actresses for the industry. It makes perfect sense that some graduates would lack the support system to resist Authority.
1. There’s too much blackmail going around.
2. Some of them are already in debt and need the money.
3. They get used to the Leftist culture that says the power and rich get to rape and torture the weak, that’s the nihilist Power is Might is Right philosophy.
Harvey had his immunity stripped, so thus he was prosecuted. However, part of the Deep State doesn’t like the existence of all these rapist sand pedos in power and are cleaning house. Trum in some sense, is a very useful front man or pawn for that activity.