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  1. “Would it pass muster today?”

    Probably not. Most songs from that era wouldn’t. (And I enjoy most of the ones I know.)

    White Christmas is racist, yanno? Even though I don’t think even BLM proponents would be pleased at seeing black snow.

  2. In Neptune’s Daughter (1949) Red Skelton and Betty Garrett sing Baby It’s Cold Outside with the genders reversed. So I suppose it’s OK.

  3. I never liked the song for other reasons. Its a phony Christmas song that was being pushed by Hollywood and lefty entertainers… since it wasn’t really a Christmas song. Kept showing up in movies and commercials… re: to the exclusion of a actual Christmas season song.

  4. It’s a good lesson in the interplay between the sexes. Try listening to Miranda Lambert’s Only Prettier. It’s also a good primer, to southern culture and to how women look at each other.

    “Well I’ve been saved by the grace of southern charm,” is the opening line.

  5. “no doubt you’ve heard about the current drive to ban “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” for being insufficiently PC in the sexual assault/harassment realm.” neo

    Political correctness being our current version of Orwell’s “thought crime”, it inescapably destroys all beauty, insightfulness and individual creativity.

    Given the Left’s expressed adulation for ‘creativity’, the irony is literally Shakespearean.

  6. Thanks for pointing out the cute and clever song, “They’re either too young or too old.” Another Loesser WW2 song worth a listen is “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition,:

  7. As an antidote to political correctness I offer; “Idina Menzel & Michael Bublé — Baby It’s Cold Outside”

    Cute. It reminds me of a scene in one of my favorite movies which most of you probably never saw. It is The Story of Three Loves,” which is a three story anthology. One of the stories is about a little boy who is in love with his nanny, Leslie Caron. He is played by Ricky Nelson, as I recall. He knows a witch, played by Ethel Barrymore. She turns him into a handsome young man and he romances the nanny for one evening. The three stories are good and I have a DVD of the film, which I watch once in a while. I might watch it tonight.

  8. Johnny Cash married into the musical (pre-Country and Western) Carter family (June Carter Cash), and this song could have been (maybe ’twas) written by Mother Maybelle Carter. The Carter family sound was and is wonderful; clear, lucid and often touching lyrics, simple but elegant music on only acoustic instruments, as Johnny plays here, which was all there was in their day.

  9. This has been going on for a years, since the snowflakes decided that a 1940s joke, “what’s in this drink?” was a clear allusion to the use of rophynol fifty years later, as a date rape drug.

  10. My favorite version is Ray Charles & Betty Carter, although a version I produced by Lou Rawls & Dianne Reeves is a close second. In directing their performances, I told Lou, “Seduce, seduce, seduce” and Dianne, to resist, knowing she wants to say “yes,” until the very last moment. We hear her say softly as the record closes, “Okay.”

  11. I wonder if neo sometimes gets her ideas from our comments, I remember I have mentioned this song in one of my comments regarding the abuse allegation witch hunt before, I remember someone also mentioned the Bruce Springsteen song in his/her reply to my comment.

  12. Fascinating how sexual repression makes for strange bedfellows (pun intended). “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” was a clear sign of moral decadence for Sayyid Qutb, too.

  13. The stay-at-home boys found it almost impossible to get ‘action’ after the warriors came home.

    Sometimes this was not their fault. They were too young to enlist.

    My father dropped out of high school to enlist.

    He came back a buck private, no medals — and had his pick of the litter !

    In doing so, he was typical.

    Being a member of the Forlorn Hope (6-6-44) did give him some gravitas, so there was that.

  14. Russell Gold Says:
    December 16th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
    This has been going on for a years, since the snowflakes decided that a 1940s joke, “what’s in this drink?” was a clear allusion to the use of rophynol fifty years later, as a date rape drug.
    * **
    In the mid-seventies, one of our drama club members told me at a cast party that her father told her to always take her liquor straight, because you never knew how much alcohol was in a mixed drink.

  15. Molly Brown Says:
    December 17th, 2017 at 12:41 am

    “If they get half a chance, the PC tyrants will cancel Christmas.”

    Look around; there is no Christmas. Only Holiday.

  16. go to a soviet comedy club

    then you see how much fun communists are, whether female used fronts or other…

    the pc tyrants are women…

  17. In the last Jedi, every competent and self sacrificing hero is a woman, the commanding officers of the resistance fleet are all female (imagine if the whole crew including capatain kirk are female on the enterprise and you get the picture). Every male character is evil, traitorous, or incompetent, and the good male characters will always make foolish decisions to get themselves into serious trouble that need the rescuing from the female characters. When the current cast of avengers retire and Disney doing a reboot again don’t be surprised if the main cast become all female

  18. Try to find version by Louis Armstrong and Velma Middleton from old “Satchmo at Pasadena” for most fun version ever.

    Come on, SJWs, it is a song, not a Christmas song or an instruction manual. My holiday wish for you all is to lighten up and enjoy, rather than make yourself crazy trying to find something to criticize.

  19. I wonder if we could persuade Mark Steyn to write and sing a parody version of the song with the lyric that neo suggests in the title, complete with irrythmia (is that a word? I’ll use it anyway).

  20. “They’re Either Too Young or Too Old” was featured, briefly and performed by Kitty Carlisle, in Woody Allen’s wonderful 1987 film Radio Days. (I’m not a fan of Woody Allen at all, and not of much of his work, either, but Radio Days is sweet and funny and extremely well done…)

  21. Whenever I listen to the Dean Martin version, I want to take a shower afterwards, as I feel kind of slimey.

  22. Under the current political correct standards many of my favorite piece of entertainment would not have been made. One of my favorite movies is a cult classic called Revenge starring Kevin, the film features the most brutal and violent treatment of the main female protagonist both physically and mentally I have seen in any form of art in the west, no way that film can be remake again today. Man on fire was the spiritual remake of that film though made by the same director.

  23. These people, sheesh.

    I like the Zooey Deschanel and Leon Redbone version from “Elf” best. My impression of the song, from the very first time I heard it, was as you describe it Neo: “it’s clear that the woman wants to stay, and that her protests are merely for the sake of propriety, and that the whole thing is a flirtatious little game of seduction.”.

    Would like to tell these folks to relax and have a little fun, but it seems they are incapable of doing so.

  24. blert said:

    “…My father dropped out of high school to enlist.

    …In doing so, he was typical…”

    My dad was 17. When it mattered. Coastie. He was eventually a Senior Chief. And he insisted his son be an officer.

    Who am I to resist the Senior Chief?

  25. I am …

    brutal. I will lock the door. If I need to. To save the ship.

    But I am also capable of mercy.

  26. We sang some Christmas carols the other day .
    It’s amazing how many of them (Broadway and Tin Pan Alley) would have to be bowdlerized or eliminated today. Of course, no one is allowed to sing the sacred carols in public outside of a religious service or (trigger warning!) classical concert.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25368/
    Public university tells campus: ‘Ensure your holiday party is not a Christmas party in disguise’

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/40049/
    University memo: wrapped gifts, Santa, Christmas trees ‘not appropriate’

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/40092/
    Boston University professor: ‘Jingle Bells’ is racist

  27. “1 Peter 3:15 15But in your hearts revere Christ as LORD. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect…”

    Key words. Ask. Gentleness. Respect.

    I’ve been re-reading my Bible because I’ve become convinced this Pope is getting a lot of stuff wrong. And the last thing I want to become is a God Botherer. Go ahead and ask. But otherwise I’ll shut up. That is all.

  28. “https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/40092/
    Boston University professor: ‘Jingle Bells’ is racist”

    I can hardly wait until my German Shepherd is racialized.

    “Although ‘One Horse Open Sleigh,’ for most of its singers and listeners, may have eluded its racialized past and taken its place in the seemingly unproblematic romanticization of a normal ‘white’ Christmas…”

    I’m a slave owner. I ride a black horse.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CXZ7Nqk-HBs/TnH74ccxCAI/AAAAAAAAA4A/LkX6VraSG1c/s1600/friesian+horse+%25289%2529.jpg

  29. 17This is My command to you: Love one another. 18If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. 19If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.

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