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Suspect 1 and suspect 2

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The photos have been released.

One of the suspects, #2 (white cap), was spotted as a suspect quite some time ago by online websites and/or bloggers, although I can’t place where. Baseball caps, by the way, are very useful for perps, especially if they keep their heads down. As are sunglasses. Both make their features more difficult to see.

My guess is that these guys aren’t in Boston anymore. Are they even in the US?

I also don’t think these are amateurs. Their body language says otherwise.

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Suspect 1 and suspect 2 — 27 Comments

  1. Reports of their blonde Scandinavian origins have been much exaggerated I see.

  2. I had heard they were feisty Latinas. I guess you can’t believe everything you read.

  4. God forbid latinas be feisty. The proper way for them to be now is to be “wise latinas.”

  5. from the photos i have seen spanning 4chan, and other places, they had a lot of white caps, but not that white cap. and though they had a few guys in similar clothes to the one the FBI released, they did not have that one either.

    one of the two that came forward and said they weren’t part of it, though clearly had a bag, and it clearly was not there in other photos.

    so perhaps there are more people than just the ones they are following from the point of the event. this is pure outright unsupported speculation.

    also, they were, as neo points out, quite relaxed, and so the outcome and sympathy for the victims was clearly not there. you cant rule out amateurs though. not likely, but not zero.

    from what i could gather about the device, is that Spain sells about 50k of them a year in the US. however, strange battery for US market.

    it didn’t take long for people to identify the hats…
    and it wont take long for more photos to appear (lets hope that their cameras put extra info in so locations can be mapped in time)

  7. “strange battery for US market.”

    Implying, perhaps, the bomb materials were carried into the country or mailed into the country rather than purchased here? If the materials were foreign-sourced, that would thwart component tracking and speak against ‘lone wolf’ homegrown terrorist and isolated crazy theories.

    Timothy, Since when did ball caps, back packs, and hoodies become the uniform of the Occupy movement? Plenty of American men ages teens to 40s, including blue collar types, wear them. I do.

  8. Backpacks are ten a penny in all college towns — at all times of the year.

    Ditto for baseball caps.

  9. There is no good reason to think these two wore anything that might identify them. I wouldn’t wear my favorite cap, would you?
    Like Neo, I think they have had plenty of escape time. By now, they are probably in Austin or Berkeley or similar, blending in with the other out-of-school, unemployed twenty-somethings who daily come and go.

    artfldgr: if by ‘device’ you mean pressure cooker, most sold here are from Europe. I have two.

  10. Don Carlos,

    I agree. One would think that they thought out their appearance and were in disguise.

    Note that the white-cap wearing suspect has his cap backwards, thus ostensibly revealing more of his face. Why would he do that? More to the point, what does he intend to show by wearing his cap backwards and what is he hiding? (Distinguishing mark on the side-rear of his head perhaps.)

  11. Boston isn’t that far from the Canadian border. They could have left the US within a few hours after the attack.

    And imagine trying to identify men wearing backpacks, ball caps and hoodies in the nation’s biggest college town.

  13. “strange battery for the US market’
    Better put me on the suspect list. I have a few for various hobbies – you can get them on line from a lot of places.
    Anyway I can’t find any more on the new suspects in the way of evidence other than the 15s video on the FBI website.
    Although one suspect has been cleared, the link Kustie posted was fairly detailed in making its case. So I don’t see it as being a bad thing or a jump to conclusion. If anything, today’s release is more a leap of faith than what was circulated yesterday.
    Today, all we have is a video of 2 guys with backpacks walking around the corner of a building, and the FBI statement that amounts to “trust us”, “we saw one put down his backpack.” The things I’ve heard and read so far, don’t seem to be compelling evidence of suspicious activity. According to the latest round of experts I’ve watched, the FBI would not do this if there wasn’t a lot more video evidence. In which case, it would be good to know why we can’t see that too? I’m concluding (but guessing) what they have posted are the best shots they have for ID purposes. That means the rest must be either difficult to see anything, or not necessarily incriminating regarding their observable actions.
    For all we know, these guys could have made the cut because it’s 2 people who they CAN’T identify. If they run facial recognition software of all the faces in the area during a certain period of time, and compare results to known databases – drivers licenses for example, maybe these guys don’t register in any database, and so far everyone else has, or can be accounted for. Just wondering.

  14. CV,
    That was my thought also. Skedaddle across the border and catch a flight to Madrid, Rome, Athens, or ? Then any number of possibilities to get to safe haven in the ME. Once they are safe in their hidey hole, their organization may send out notice of another victory for whatever terrorist outfit they’re from.

    I’m saying this because, if I undertook such an attack, that is pretty much what I would do. My guess is that they are either from Iran or al Qaida in North Africa. Yes, I’m jumping to conclusions. At my age I need all the exercise I can get.

  15. It’s also possible–even likely–that other footage of the two is being withheld deliberately. The FBI clearly believes these two are the perpetrators; their verbiage about seeking them is straightforward enough.

    My take on the behavior of the two men is that they’ve either done this sort of thing before, or are uncaring enough that exposing their faces doesn’t concern them. It takes a certain sort of sociopath to set a bomb down at the feet of a crowd that includes children. That sort of person doesn’t hold life in any sort of esteem, even his own life.

  16. Per CNN and Neo’s link above:

    Other footage, still unreleased, shows that the two suspects stayed at the scene to watch the carnage unfold, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

    “When the bombs blow up, when most people are running away and victims were lying on the ground, the two suspects walk away pretty casually,” said the official, who has seen the unreleased video. “They acted differently than everyone else,” he added.

    While video of at least one suspect planting the bomb exists, the FBI had chosen not to release it, according to the official. One reason, according to the official, is that were the media to repeatedly show the suspects leaving the bomb, it might cause some people to overreact if they came into contact with them.

  20. artfldegr seems to be saying that the cookers were Maghefesas, which are Spanish. The wrecked lid looked more to me like a T-fal. Are T-fals European? I got rid of my T-fal because it was lousy. American made Prestos and Mirros are far superior to T-fal, although Maghefesas are wonderful.

    The problem is, an American made cooker could be bought off the shelf in Wal-Mart, in its box, passed through the Self-Check quite anonymously, so, the idea of tracking the bomb through the cooker sounds utterly ridiculous to me.

  21. We have no real info on what is going on inside the investigation. I assume they are looking for individuals present at the marathon to provide photos and videos on the hope of obtaining clearer images. Otherwise, why not put out an APB for two fuzzy faced males, one with a black cap and one with a white cap?

  23. Sounds like all hell has broken loose at MIT and Watertown. I’m not quite up to speed yet.

  25. A survivor that lost both legs has identified the fellow in the reversed white cap as having left the backpack bomb.

    The perp stared at him from less than thirty-inches away.

    He left the more lethal bomb… and is sure to start popping up in ever more personal digital photos.

    I suspect that he went to ground in Toronto, first. There are imams there who would shelter them — and Algerian-Canadians have been directly tied to AQIM — which has been baying for blood.

    (Amenas gas plant and the Mali jihad)

    By driving back to Canada, they enter an FBI free zone. The RCMP is easy sledding for Islamists.

  26. The MSM never quits. The FBI identified the two as “Suspects”, no if and buts.
    The local Gannett-owned paper had a big headline last nite:”Possible Suspects Identified in Boston”.

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