When it’s Democrats talking trash, they’re just “passionate”
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
One of our newly-sworn-in members of Congress has covered herself with glory:
New Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) started her term with a bang as she cursed out President Donald Trump in a speech to supporters. From Fox News:
Speaking to a crowd of supporters Thursday night, the Michigan Democrat and one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress said of Trump: “People love you and you win. And when your son looks at you and says, ‘Momma, look you won. Bullies don’t win.’ And I said, ‘Baby, they don’t, because we’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the mother***er.’”
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Not to mention the fact that Tlaib had anti-Semitic racist Linda Sarsour with her at her swearing-in. You know, the woman who loves Louis Farrakhan and terrorist Rasmea Odeh.
Tlaib is in a safe Democratic district, and she has the honor of being one of the first “two Muslim women elected to Congress…and the first Palestinian-American woman in Congress. She is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.”
Tlaib is the eldest of fourteen children of Palestinian immigrants to this country. She was born and raised in Detroit.
Tlaib’s statement has not met with condemnation by the Democrats in power, which should come as no surprise. It has been labeled (“reframed,” as they say in the family therapy biz) as “passionate.”
House Democrats reacting to Rep. Tlaib’s explicit comments do not condemn them outright, telling reporters ahead of their caucus meeting today that the Congresswoman can speak for herself only and that passionate viewpoints are “welcomed.”
— Marianna Sotomayor (@MariannaNBCNews) January 4, 2019
[NOTE: I will point out that although Tlaib ran as a Democrat, she is a “Democratic Socialist,” which is in itself a reframe of “socialist.”]
The way politics is going on the left, I expect scenes like those in Korean and Taiwanese legislatures eventually. These people are not equipped to legislate. Hank Johnson its keeping quiet about Guam these days but is now onto Hitler. I wonder if he knows who he was ?
They are uneducated fools but as Roman Hruska once said, “Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance? We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos.”
Even the crazies in Detroit deserve their crazy representative,
Among the volumes in Jefferson’s library, that he sold to Congress in 1815, and which formed the original nucleus of the Library of Congress, was a Qur’an.
I see a story out yesterday that one of the Muslim women to be sworn in as a new member of Congress will be using Jefferson’s Qur’an to swear on.
This is the same shtik, the same slick little piece of deceptive Muslim political and cultural agitpropop that Keith Ellison used when he was sworn in and back then, in 2007, the Washington Post, among many other MSM outlets, swooned at what one MSM outlet termed an “all American solution” to objections about Ellison swearing his oath of office on the Qur’an, which stands for Islamic supremacy.
The MSM were co-conspirators in putting this one over on the American people.
For I noticed that the Post never mentioned then—and probably won’t now—that Jefferson likely didn’t have the Quran in his collection because he so highly esteemed Islam.
It is much more likely that Jefferson had it in his collection to study the enemy.
For, of course, in Jefferson’s time the Muslim Barbary Pirates of North Africa**—capturing/destroying our ships, stealing their cargoes, and selling their crews and passengers into slavery—were an existential threat to the survival of our very young, newly formed, and struggling nation, which was then so dependent on it’s maritime trade.
Jefferson and Adams actually traveled to Tripoli in 1785 to talk to Abd Al Rahman, the Muslim Ambassador to London and highest Muslim representative, and they asked him why these Muslim pirates were preying on the maritime commerce of a newly formed nation that had done nothing to them, Al-Rahman told them:
“It was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their (Muslim’s) authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
And Al Rahman demanded an annual Jizya (protection money) payment to stop the piracy.
The U.S. Congress paid this payment in gold for some 15 years—in some years this Jizya payment amounted to more than half our new nation’s annual Federal budget.
From what I have read, it was Jefferson’s many years of hard work that created our Navy and Marines which, as their first mission, sailed over to North Africa and, in a long campaign, wiped out the Barbary Pirates, and destroyed their bases (“to the shores of Tripoli”).
You can sell this kind of baloney much more easily these days because such a large percentage of our population is so ignorant of our own national history, or at least the actual, patriotic, un-transmogrified version of it that used to be taught in our K-12 classes.
**Today we still have modern day Muslim Barbary Pirates, operating out of the same North African territory—now Libya—that they were operating out of in Jefferson’s day.
If your ship strays too close to the coastline, they will sail out in their ships, try to board and capture your ship, and to hold it and its crew and cargo for ransom.
You can look on the Internet and see videos of these boat’s private security and some national navy forces patrolling the area, as they fend off such attacks by these modern day Barbary Pirates.
If another day passes and no grown up in the Democratic party takes this opportunity for a 21st century ‘Sister Souljah’ moment, we will all know where we stand.
John Fisher, I already know. If a Dem politician dared to make a “Sister Souljah”-like statement on the likes of Tlaib or Omar they would be hounded out of the party. As the article notes they are already praising Tlaib’s “passion”.
There once was Nazi, and now there is Dazi… neo-Dazi? [unqualified] Progress.
We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos.”
Even the crazies in Detroit deserve their crazy representative,
I doubt there are many people in Tlaibs community with IQs high enough to ever become Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos.
Darwin ay work
“Dems livid after Tlaib vows to ‘impeach the motherf—er’”:
There will be zero consequences to Tlaib for her language. Pelosi has already said her language is “no worse than Trump’s”.
“Dems livid after Tlaib vows to ‘impeach the motherf—er’”: Rank-and-file Democrats, immediately fearful of the damage the comment could cause, unloaded on their new colleague Friday morning…
“As elected officials I think we should be expected to set a high bar… It’s not helpful.”
That’s not language I would use … I think the office of the presidency should be treated with respect.” …
Yeah, that’s just what I say to someone when I’m livid. I gather, Ann, that your entire social circle is made up of vapid elementary school administrators.
Why always the immediate resort to an ad hominem attack?
Snow on Pine,
Glen Beck supposedly has a reproduction of some or all of Jefferson’s Qur’an which is heavily annotated with Jefferson’s comments. I spent a half hour or more trying to find it on the web to no avail. Beck claims that Jefferson was clearly fearful of Islam in combination with a strong religious liberty in our constitution.
A terrific book on our early Navy and the Barbary pirates is “Six Frigates” by Toll. Those six ships were actually funded under Pres. Adams who was in favor of maintaining a standing Navy. Vice Pres. (I think) Jefferson was opposed. By the time the ships were actually built, Jefferson was Pres. and he had changed his mind.
The Barbary pirates were a big factor but there were others. Our first attacks in the Med. sea only blunted the pirates a bit. Read Toll’s epilog where we return to the Med. many years later to finish the job.
The amazing thing to me about the book was that while the U.S. was economically significant on the world stage, at the time we were military weaklings. The Brits. and French routinely hijacked our merchant ships AND the Brits enslaved our merchant seamen on their Naval vessels. All we could do in response was to accept their sailors that deserted and provide cover for them.
It wasn’t until captains like Stephan Decatur sunk a couple British war ships that the U.S. gained real respect on the world stage. Those defeats caused an uproar and crisis of confidence in the U.K.
I thought Ann’s comment was interesting.
The Dems could censure her, Tlaib, but I’m pretty sure they won’t. If I remember, censure is a relatively toothless gesture, but is a decent slap in the face. Of course, they could give the newbie one or two strikes before taking action.
Ann:
It is clear even from the politicians’ comments you offered that the only thing they’re “livid” about is that her comments might cause a backlash.
“Why always the immediate resort to an ad hominem attack?”
Is that a question for Tlaib?
Hum, so I can say some awful things to and about Dems and then say Nancy said it’s OK to say them? Or, would Rep condemned me saying that we don’t do such things? What would Saul Alinsky say? Questions questions questions.
“Livid” wasn’t my word; it’s in the title of the piece at Politico.
The comment re “ad hominem” was directed to Art Deco.
This “person” has merely and positively demonstrated what it actually is: An enemy of any civilization worth preserving.
No backtracking allowed. No apology accepted. She dehumanized herself and it can now stay that way; as an “it” For effen ever and ever and ever …
Why always the immediate resort to an ad hominem attack?
The term ‘ad hominem attack’ doesn’t mean what you fancy it means, Mrs. Selden.
“Livid” wasn’t my word; it’s in the title of the piece at Politico.
Which you recycled here to make a point, which you now deny you were trying to make. You’re a pest, woman.
Art Deco:
Step up your game, or do you work for Orkin?
One thing I appreciate about Neo’s posts and the comments of her readers is their normally congenial comments regarding others’ posts. I hope that continues. I have quit other blogs due to the snarky back-and-forths among the commenters. Let’s lead by example and not fall to the depths that some of our politicians and media have.
The eldest of fourteen kids! Is that typical of Palestinian mothers? Is that all she does, as the old joke goes, “lay on her back and open her crack.”
The website that includes Ann Arbor, MI, had dozens of comments about the crazy new muslim Congress critter that raved about how wonderful her MF comment about impeaching Trump was. It’s no coincidence that they call it, “The People’s Republic of Ann Arbor.”
Chuck, over at Althouse blog, has a pretty good explanation of where the Palestinian Congressbabe came from. He is often snarky but he is from Michigan and knows the story,
It’s at the end of this thread, here.
Who let loose the blood red tide? I didn’t authorize that.
You may prefer to think of Tlaib having run as a Democrat.
I say she ran as an Arab Muslim in an Arab Muslim majority/plurality district. Doh.
Demography is Destiny.
In multi-ethnic empires, people vote their skin / ethnic group. Doh again.
Who Let Them In?
Who will do something about it before it is too late?
FOAF on January 4, 2019 at 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm said:
There will be zero consequences to Tlaib for her language. Pelosi has already said her language is “no worse than Trump’s”.
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And conversely, now Trump’s language is “no worse than Tlaib’s” — so can we expect the Dems to put a lid on that particular line of criticism?
(Waiting for Sen. Romney to criticize her might rival the wait for Godot.)
In fact, Trump’s language may be better.
He is coarse and vulgar, but does he use obscenity in public?
I don’t remember seeing any, but I don’t see everything, of course.
Good point.
Ann.
Because you are a troll.
Another point about Tlaib’s swearing-in on Jefferson’s Koran is that, in Muslim teaching, only a Qur’an in Arabic is actually the Qur’an. Jefferson’s English version would be an “interpretation” and not the real thing.
I say she ran as an Arab Muslim in an Arab Muslim majority/plurality district. Doh.
The district has a black majority, not a Muslim majority.
Probably lots of black Muslims in that district.
She is just a clown like Hank Johnson of Guam fame.
The real consequences of the House takeover is that budgeting is going to be crazy. Sundance at CTH is really negative about the next two years.
First, you might remember when this massive spending, and the government takeover of healthcare, led to the Marxists losing the 2010 midterm election in a massive defeat. But do you remember what the democrats did in the lame-duck congress between November 2010 and January 2011?
Does the term “Porkulous” ring a bell?
While 63 democrat seats were lost in the November 2010 election (and six democrat senate seats), those exiting Marxists, despite just having suffered the worst defeat in almost 100 years, audaciously –and apologetically– voted in the December 2010 lame-duck session, to fully fund President Obama’s next two years in office. This was done by Speaker Nancy Pelosi specifically to block the incoming GOP wave from upending the priorities of the Obama administration in 2011. That was called the “Porkulous” spending bill; and the democrat-marxists didn’t give a snit about how it looked.
Now, did Speaker Paul Ryan or Senate Leader Mitch McConnell do anything as bold to fund and secure the budgetary priorities of President Donald Trump in the 2018 lame-duck?
No?
This will not be the last shutdown.
The fact that many Federal employees who–regardless of this shutdown and lack of salary–still have mortgage or rent payments, car payments, credit card payments, possibly child support payments, not to mention grocery, gas & electric bills to pay, and who undoubtedly, many of them, have little backup funds to tide them over–will have many of these millions of Federal employees constantly on their phones and their computers, yelling at their Congressmen, and putting pressure on Congressional Democrats and Republicans–and on Trump–to end this shutdown as quickly as possible.
According to reports on how Federal employees donate, these Federal employees are overwhelmingly Leftist/Democrat in orientation. Good for the Democrats, but it also makes what happens to these Federal employees have a particular and large impact on Democrat members of Congress.
Unfortunately, as well, Federal bureaucrats–many of them an increasingly officious lot–are not in particularly good odor with a lot of citizens in this country, so many people’s sympathy for them, I’d imagine, is somewhat limited.
Up until now, Republicans have been gun shy, and such shutdowns have only lasted for a few days or so before they folded. If it were up to Congressional Republicans–or former Republican Presidents–they would probably have folded already.
Trump is a different story, as he talks of a shutdown (reportedly, actually, of only 25% of the government) lasting months, or even years.
I would think that In the mix–somewhere in Trump’s political calculations–has to be the fact that the overwhelmingly Leftist Federal bureaucracy has demonstrated, very conclusively, I think, by its lack of any visible support for Trump, that its members take a very dim view him, with some Federal employees participating in the effort to attempt a soft coup against him.
Why, then, should Trump have such overriding concern about whatever misery the Democrats unwillingness to fund the Wall might cause to befall these often unpopular Federal bureaucrats–an overwhelmingly Democrat constituency–that it would force him to give up the pressure tactic of a shutdown ?
I think Trump will hold out far longer that either Congressional Democrats or Republicans can or will.
I think Trump will hold out far longer that either Congressional Democrats or Republicans can or will.
I think the Supreme Court on DACA will be important. I don’t know if they have it under review since they are back to nine members. If not, Trump might start with military construction and then wait for the DACA decision to be reversed.
The Democrat Congress might then try to hold up a DoD funding since the House is where appropriations are supposed to begin.
It will be an interesting two years.
It may be possible for Trump to “reprogram” a lot of DOD–or other funds–that are already in the pipeline.
I believe that there is also an “Emergency” military fund available.
If Trump declares the slow motion invasion across our Southern border to be a National Security Emergency, he might then get access to those funds to build the Wall.
Another possibility are the funds that Trump has cut for some UN organizations, our foreign aid–collectively adding up to hundreds of millions of dollars each year –for Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, that Trump has said he will cut, and there might even some unspent funds, due to the government being in shutdown mode.
I wonder if President Trump can take some funds from here and there, and cobble together enough to build the Wall without an appropriation from Congress.
I saw a post on facebook from some guy with a Spanish surname complaining about the GoFundMe account to build the wall. He said it could be used for better purposes. Obviously left wing purposes.
The shutdown is Trump’s budget cut. But haven’t the furloughed bureaucrats always received full pay plus more later, when back on the job? I would prefer they use the aid and comfort provided by their own individual churches. Or other charitable enterprises to which they have always given so much of their own money.
I’m coming to the conclusion that Trump smarter than even the GOP has given him credit for or he is getting very good advice, maybe from Kushner.
David Pryce Jones explained the Arabs Shame-Honor cultures years ago when I read his book. Trump either knows from negotiating with Arabs or has been told about it. This sounds well targeted. Of course, if she is a black Muslim, she may not be smart enough to get it, but she is supposed to be Palestinian.
Kai Akker–Yes, Congress has always seen to it that federal employees receive all of the pay they would have received if a shutdown had never occurred.
According to a CBS story out today,** it looks like Congress only appropriated enough money to fully fund the SNAP program i.e. Food Stamps–that has 47 million recipients, through the end of January; not enough money will be left to fully fund SNAP for February, and Congress did not appropriate any money to fund SNAP for March.
WIC–with 7 million recipients, will be running on whatever remains of its prior funding, and may also be in trouble come February.
That’s when the excrement will really hit the fan.
** See https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-affect-snap-food-stamps-wic-millions-could-face-severe-cuts-in-2019-funding-usda/?fbclid=IwAR0vRRjwZrH0EW4bbSD0cK8eQJIbvEGXKclmkzmU5MpJ52l943exzlwuWZE
Not giving Republicans any credit for being Machiavellian, it appears that the geniuses in Congress just never anticipated that any shutdown could last for months, perhaps many months.
If the new Democrat controlled House passes more funding for these programs, will the Republican controlled Senate vote these appropriations through?
Will Trump sign them?
In this situation, it seems to me that the Democrats–more so than the Republicans, and a lot more than Trump–will be the ones under the most pressure to cave on funding the Wall.
Yes. Live off the government and you starve when it doesn’t spit out the goods.
P.S. If you recall, some time ago there were reports about a 17 hour “glitch” in the system for loading benefit money onto some Federal EBT cards in several states, and reports of disturbances by customers–at places like Walmart–when the cards couldn’t be used to buy “stuff.”
You can imagine what will happen if no benefits are forthcoming to 50 million recipients.
There was a reason that Roman rulers feared the mob, and tried to keep it placated.
You can imagine what will happen if no benefits are forthcoming to 50 million recipients. There was a reason that Roman rulers feared the mob, and tried to keep it placated.
If you cut people’s real income by a large fraction on no notice, you’ll cause a reaction.
Now, why not look at what was said in Congress ca. 1995 on proposals to revamp the old AFDC program, or what was said in various venues about that program by it’s promoters (e.g. Marian Wright Edelman) in the generation previous. The successor program enrolls 1/3 the number of people who were on AFDC, and does so in a country whose population is 20% larger. The social crisis predicted never appeared.
You can remove perverse incentives in the political economy quite readily, provided you follow orderly procedures which allow clientele time to adjust.