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  1. people are stupid… duh…
    half of them have iqs below 100..
    of those above 100, only a few are above 110 or 120
    many more idiots in the distrubution of halves than geniuses.. and even the geniuses are dumbed down in terms of understanding reality vs some abstract narrow verticle field…

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

    – H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

  2. A few years ago, I recall an interview in which President Obama mentioned “my Muslim faith,” and the interviewer said quickly, “you mean your CHRISTIAN faith,” but the cat was out of the bag for anyone to whom this wasn’t already obvious. But that leaves a troubling question: all right, the President is a Muslim, but is he a Sunni or a Shiite? If President Obama is a Shiite, beholden to that school of Islam, his behavior toward Iran becomes easier to understand. My apologies if the school of Islam under which he was raised is mentioned in his biographical material.

  3. Charles,

    He’s almost certainly Sunni as Indonesia’s Shia pop. is .5%, or half of one %. Pakistan, where he visited as a youth is Sunni as well.

    Yet, he’s clearly favoring the Shia. I suspect for him it’s a matter of pragmatism. Iran is the Muslim nation most favorably positioned to attain regional dominance.

    I also suspect that Obama isn’t particularly wedded to any particular Muslim sect, narcissistically seeing himself as above petty differences.

    Finally, I think that Obama believes that socialism and Islam can be made to be compatible. That there is nothing in Islam that precludes an embrace of an Islamic socialism.

  4. There is no doubt that islam was a significant factor in bho’s early, formative years. Shiites are the majority in Indonesia which just might (wink, wink) explain bho’s willingness to assist tehran’s ambition to go nuclear and dominate the ME. Plus, the messiah is not so naive as to believe his vaunted charm can tame the mullahs into joining the 21st century or even the 17th. He wants them to have the bomb.

  5. GB,

    Perhaps my info on the sects in Indonesia is wrong…. I may have read 0.5% and jump to 50%. However, bho does seem obsessed with pleasing tehran.

  6. There’s nothing strange about this ‘deal’ if one seriously entertains the notion that Obama is only engaging in this charade in order to buy time for the Mullahs.

    No one actually believes that the Mullahs can be trusted to keep any agreement.

    According to Obama, they’re perhaps 2-3 months away from breakout. Why would obsessed, ideological/religious fanatics agree to delay for another ten years or even one year? Please.

    So Obama cannot think that negotiations with Iran have any chance of validity at all. He has to have another reason for this dog and pony show.

    The idea that he thinks that this will be an actual legacy hinges upon the idea that he believes that an agreement will be honored by the Iranians. Please.

    Why is it so hard to accept that he’s a traitor? Because it hasn’t happened till now? Because Hollywood doesn’t make movies where the bad guys win? Because its too terrible to contemplate?

  7. “He wants them to have the bomb.”

    Bingo.
    Everything he’s done is consistent with that assertion.

    PS: I had to look up Indonesia’s religious mix to be certain.

  8. Charles:

    That “my Muslim faith” thing is a truncated quote. Obama was actually saying this. He was not saying he is or was a Muslim.

  9. The mé¶bius strip logic of our president: The way to prove to Iran that it doesn’t really need to build the bomb is to let them build it.

  10. Some straight facts:

    Barry Soetoro was indoctrinated within a Saudi funded Wahabbist institution. His Arabic is of a perfect Saudi accent — actually radio broadcast ready. Yes, he is fluent in Arabic… orally. Written Arabic is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish.

    (Arabic is an extremely simple language (animal domestication centric) without the flood of irregular forms found in English. It’s the written form that throws Occidentals.)

    His pipeline into Tehran is via Valerie girl. In many, many, ways Valerie girl is Barry’s brain. There is no daylight between her nostrums and Barry’s pipe dreams.You’d better believe that she’s been involved in all of the negotiations up past her eyeballs.

    As you must have noted by now, Barry prefers to have women as his PRIMARY go-betweens. Should they argue with the wan — he tunes them out. You can find White House photos of him doing just exactly that — to his own gals.

    &&&&&&&

    How many times do I have to post it?

    Islamism = Islam + Communism/ Bolshevism

    Islam has NO economic theories for the modern age. Caravan raiding is hopelessly dated.

    The Baron over at Gates of Vienna has written up — at great length — the socialist economic underpinnings proffered by the Islamists.

    This out pouring of Communist agitprop is TOTALLY FILTERED OUT by our MSM.

    To a person, the MSM of the West does not consider the Bolshevist economic platform of the Islamists to be controversial at all. Consequently, they edit all out, — deemed not news worthy.

    Barry Soetoro is — in the fullness of his vision — a True Believing ISLAMIST.

    His own economics are Socialist-Fascist… his creed is Islam…

    That’s why he thought that he had to visit “all 57 states.”

    (There are exactly 57 Islamic nations — something that ALL Muslims are taught as children… it being a triumphalist creed.)

    The catalog of Barry’s disdain for Christianity is too extensive to post here. It would read like a Russian novel.

    Whereas the endless tributes that Barry proffers to Islamic norms are boundless — and normally suppressed by our own MSM.

    Barry’s VERY FIRST official media effort was a narrow cast to IRAN! January 21, 2009. He hadn’t even addressed Americans — save for his inaugural. His ‘negotiations’/ charm offensive with Tehran began at that time. (!!!)

  11. neo

    snopes is too tortured.

    snopes also has a fulsome reputation for being to the left of the President.

    The ENTIRE reason for snopes is to shoot down criticism aimed at leftists… and buttress any dirt to sully those non-leftist.

    Neutral: hardly.

  12. blert:

    It’s not that it’s snopes. I don’t think much of snopes and I’m not saying it’s correct because it’s snopes.

    But that IS the correct quote from the interview, and that’s the point. It stands on its own and can be found in many many sources. Snopes was just the first one that came up; I’ve researched it before and am convinced Obama was just alluding to what other people have said of him.

    He may or may not be a Muslim, whatever he said. But he did not refer to himself as a Muslim; it was not an admission of his Muslim faith.

  13. I have long believed that you either have to live with Iran becoming a nuclear power, or you have to use force to stop it. So, I don’t really blame the administration for not coming up with a deal to stop the program or even to hinder it in any significant way since the country isn’t going to support another large scale war in the Middle East any time soon. However, this administration is congenitally incapable of admitting failure, so you get this fake agreement to make an agreement. Obama and his aides are the kind of people who won’t admit the sky is blue if, at any point, one of them had claimed otherwise.

  14. Neo

    what about its current aggressive behavior would lead anyone to think anything of the sort? The Iranian people are another thing;

    In 1980’s, post-1979 regime when Khomeini fatwa massive killing of his opposition, millions who greeted him lost faith with the revolution but Saddam give the regime a fresh blood where all the opposition rapped with the regime.

    Let not forgot that the current regime, having troubles with Iranian people, due to the sections imposed by UN/USA, however looks lifting the sanctions is afresh blood again for current regime to survive again, may be more to come if wakeup on a regime got a Mushroom Cloud?

  15. Ayatollah Hussein Ali Montazeri, has emerged as the authoritative voice of religious opposition to a supposedly religious regime. He has been lionized as an idealist speaking truth to those in a power structure riddled with cynical and corrupt ideologues. For many Iranians, Montazeri became more than a hero, more than an ayatollah; he was truly, as Shiites say, a source of emulation.

    In the early years when many in the Iranian government wanted to try to stabilize the internal situation, Montazeri insisted on exporting the revolution throughout the Middle East and far beyond. He initiated a conference of anti-imperialist movements that included communists from Panama and Nicaragua as well as Muslim fundamentalists from the Philippines and Afghanistan. Montazeri also played a part in exposing the Iran-contra affair, the abortive secret negotiations between the United States and Iran in 1985. After that, further official contact between Tehran and Washington was virtually impossible for more than 15 critical years.

    The Legacy of the People’s Ayatollah: Montazeri
    BY MAZIAR BAHARI 12/20/09 AT 7:00 PM Newsweek

    Do you give your trust to the regime and his Rulers?

  16. blert is right about Baraq Hussein’s verbal fluency in Arabic.

    The only way to handle Iran’s enriched uranium is to physically remove it from the country, if reducing nuke-making is the object.

  17. Required reading for these times: “The Curve of Binding Energy” by John McPhee. It’s forty years old, but the physics hasn’t changed. It’s about nuclear proliferation, and needs to be more widely known.

  18. ” . . . ensuring that Iran could not have a breakout time of less than one year.”

    Yikes! I first heard that on the TV at work today in the break room.

    That so jumped out at me – I was thinking the same as that article – when did it change from stopping them to slowing them down?

    And, of course, the news folks were all talking about how great this was; how “historic” it was; the US and Iran haven’t had formal diplomatic relations in decades and now they have a deal.

    Yea, it is only possible because, just like the deal with Cuba, Obama gave away the family farm! (actually, he threw Israel under the bus; but you get the metaphor)

    Sadly, I think many folks will believe the news media that this is “historic” and a “‘great” thing.

  19. I heard on Fox News tonight that His Infantile Majesty’s “sympathy call” to Kenya’s president today failed to mention—Duuuhhhhh—that the butchered college kids were specifically CHRISTIANS. So, VTC* not only won’t call Islamist murderers by name, but won’t say the religion of the Victims…

    But, hey, at least he got tough as nails with the Persian Mullahs…and…let…them keep their Nuke Sites. VTC*..VTC*…VTC*

    *VAST Testicular Concavity*

  20. Yes, Obama acts exactly like an associate professor of liberal BS (maybe cultural anthropology) at some “highly ranked” BS college (Amherst? Brandeis? Columbia? NYU?). But he is, also like the profs, eminently personally corrupt. So, what have the ayatollahs offered him that he so badly wants? Safety from the Big Kablooey? He’d take their word for it? No. He wants stuff. So what kinda stuff?

  21. blert is right about Baraq Hussein’s verbal fluency in Arabic.

    Iraninans specks Farsi not Arabic

  22. ba-
    Neither blert nor I claimed he was speaking at length, and his openers, the ones I’ve heard, were smoooth Arabic, that salaam aleikum, inshAllah type stuff. Maybe the openers are said the same; who knows what’s Farsi besides Farsians?

  23. For those unaware: the Standard Drill for ANY Wahabbist imam is to have ALL students reciting the Koran from front to back — over and over… until it can be said entirely from memory — and with comprehension.

    THIS was how Barry learned to speak Arabic with a SAUDI accent — and rather perfectly at that.

    By the time one has picked up the vocabulary of the Koran — and the classroom — one is almost all the way home to Arabic fluency.

    To repeat: Arabic is NOT loaded with the staggering complexities found in English, Chinese, etc.

    It’s a LOT closer to the poetic roots of human speech.

    This poetic form is overwhelming to those new to Arabic. It also makes it all the more easy to pick it up.

    [ You’ll see the same structure in other primitive languages… like Hawaiian. In Hawaiian, it’s extremely common for syllables to repeat: Likelike Highway, for example.

    It’s not pronounced like-like — it’s : lee kay lee kay Highway.

    Arabic is like that: a whole lot of sound for not all that much content… flowery expressions are used at every turn…

    And in all practical speech, Koranic invocations are dropped in at every turn, inshallah.

    As you might imagine, ALL evidences of Barry’s fluency in Arabic are suppressed. He limits himself to the trite introductions. He is, however, totally culturally immersed.

    Hence, the gang-sign significance of the up-turned index finger he’s know from his school days. It’s of long standing and universal meaning in Muslim circles.

    &&&&&

    There is video tape of Barry’s speechifying in Los Angeles years back — with Ed Said the keynote speaker, IIRC.

    With an audience of Arabic speakers, it’s a pretty good bet that the suppressed video footage has WAY TOO much Arabic for PR purposes – – 2007 through 2017.

    When it finally comes into the public domain….

    It’s the written form that throws Westerners. It’s their script.

    It’s a remarkably phonetic scheme, though. Further, Arabs don’t hold speakers to tight standards, generally.

    Hence the variations on Qatar — Guttar or Kattar BOTH are entirely acceptable.

    The average IQ in the Muslim world is approximately 80…

    So the oral fluency standard is not up there with Shakespeare.

    Ayatollah Soetoro would not pass muster as an imam — as a preacher of Islam. But he can navigate the culture without a tour guide. Heck, he did that when he was of college age.

    BTW, Soetoro has ONE great gift — he’s practically a polyglot.

    He can speak Harvard — and Baptist minister — and Arab Islamist — all with total facility.

    His education falls drastically short when you move away from language and manipulation. He’s INNUMERATE.

    He’s rather openly admitted just so. He can’t even perform long division. I’d say he’s hard pressed to add four digit numbers.

    It’s due to his psychological block: he hates his Grandmother — and she was a numbers maven.

    If you go through the transcripts you can spot times when he’s got millions, billions and trillions all mixed up.

    That’s right, he can’t even come to grips with orders of magnitude.

    Keep that in mind when you realize that the ‘agreement’ with Iran is loaded to the hilt with numbers, thresholds, and dates. ALL have no resonance with Barry.

    For him 600; 6,000; 60,000 — they’re all ‘just numbers.’

    So you can understand why Larry Summers bailed out of Barry’s world.

    Even SOROS can’t get his points across to Barry. Why?

    Too many numbers concepts. It really is that simple.

    He should have never been promoted past salesmen.

    As an executive, he’s a disaster — and his innumeracy is a big reason why.

    The rest turns on his reactive-dependent personality.

    He’s a Gonnabee.

  24. Let’s look at his record.

    Libya. Gaddafi surrendered his nuclear weapons program to the Bush administration. He might not have been a nice guy, but he exhibited some realism. Obama sided with his terrorist enemies and led a war from behind to remove Gaddafi. He succeeded in that and the country descended into chaos. We had the Benghazi Embassy attack, where our ambassador was killed, yet our CIC was more interested in going to a fundraiser on Air Force 1. Utter disaster.

    Egypt: Obama forced Mubarak out and supported the Muslim Brotherhood in his stead. The new President, Morsi, allowed his supporters to run wild, slaughtering Coptic Christians and destroying their churches. Obama said nothing, did nothing, and let the mayhem continue.

    The Egyptian people rose up against Morsi in mass demonstrations and the military staged a coup in response. Their new president, el-Sisi recently spoke about the need to reform Islam to counter radicalism. Brave man. Egyptian President Sadat was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood for making peace with Israel. Obama had a fit of pique and cut off all military aid to Egypt. He has now relented, probably under intense Saudi pressure.

    Iraq: Bush conquered Iraq. It was far harder and took far longer than the American public wanted, but he did it. So long as we had a strong presence in Iraq, we could keep the Sunni radicals and Shiite radicals at bay. Obama pissed that victory away by unilaterally withdrawing all US forces.

    Now we have ISIS controlling much of Iraq and Shiite militias controlled by Iran fighting them. The Iraqi Army, absent US support, has been useless in the fight against ISIS.

    Afghanistan: Obama wants to cede victory to the Taliban. He is going to withdraw all US troops and he has already traded a deserter for five top Taliban commanders. America lost a lot of brave warriors trying to destroy the Taliban, the people who helped bring us 9/11. It seems Obama could care less.

    Iran: The only conclusion I can come to is that he is on their side. Maybe he entertains some fantasy that being nice to your sworn enemies and giving them a pathway to nuclear weapons will make them play nice. Given the history of the regime, that seems extremely unlikely. The people most worried about a second Holocaust are not impressed by this deal.

    Yemen: A perfect example of Obama at work.

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