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  1. Re: Saudi Arabia helping Israel

    Mike Plaiss:

    There are a lot of angles to Iran’s attack on Israel, but I agree this is a key insight. The Saudis and Israelis were getting too chummy and Iran/Hamas had to put a stop to it. By Any Means Necessary, i.e. October 7. From your link:
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    Israel-Saudi normalization seemed on the horizon before Oct 7

    In the weeks before Hamas’s October 7 invasion, the United States had been involved in intense diplomatic activity to promote a three-way deal that would have included a strategic pact between Riyadh and Washington against Iran, a normalization deal with Saudi Arabia and Israel, and a renewed pathway to Palestinian statehood.

    Hamas’s October 7 attack against Israel scuttled those efforts but did not hinder the ability of Western powers, with armies stationed in the region to work together with Arab partners, including Saudi Arabia, to build a military alliance against Iran.

    The joint defensive military maneuvers marked the first time that the five armies, with help from Saudi Arabia, had worked together as a nascent coalition to repel an Iranian attack.

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/saudi-arabia-acknowledges-helping-defend-israel-against-iran-797201

  2. Hamas’s October 7 attack against Israel scuttled those efforts

    Yes, exactly! On October 8, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, et al, couldn’t distance themselves too far from the Abraham Accords. They pretended it all never happened.

    Six months later, finally, they are defending Israel, and even more impotent, acknowledging it. This strikes me as an inflection point, and it makes me hopeful.

  3. Matti Friedman is the latest to take a stab at Orwell and succeeds, overall, magnificently….
    “Homage to Orwell”—
    https://jewishreviewofbooks.com/literature/16061/homage-to-orwell/#
    (Includes some worthy revelations about a recent Orwell biography, some surprising ones, for me at least, regarding William Dalrymple’s responses to the latest Gaza war and some not so surprising ones regarding—sigh—Andrew Sullivan…)
    H/T Powerline blog.

    + Bonuses:
    From Roger L. Simon…
    “Today’s Antisemitism: Liberal Jews Face Harsh Reality”
    https://archive.ph/ji1LS
    “Viva Diversity!”—
    https://blazingcatfur.ca/2024/04/15/viva-diversity-3/
    “Will The West Wait Until Iran Tries To Obliterate Israel?”
    https://blazingcatfur.ca/2024/04/15/will-the-west-wait-until-iran-tries-to-obliterate-israel/
    H/T Blazingcatfur blog for all three.

    Who could have ever suspected that “Fundamental Transformation”—embraced so enthusiastically—actually means…suicide?

  4. Have read that Iran, via a third party, detailed in advance the scope, targets and timing of their actions to the Biden Administration and that information was forwarded to Israel.
    Our illustrious Mr. Kirby has denied this.
    Any thoughts or additional information?

  5. Not only has the remarkable Mr. Kirby denied it.
    He’s called it “nonsense”(!)

    And he’s absolutely right: how could Iran possibly “warn” “Biden” of something “Biden” agreed—perhaps even suggested—that Iran do?

    (Not to worry much: merely the illustrious “Biden” gang unleashing, once again, its rhetorical skills…

  6. Another sterling product of charlottesville no longer fit for hollywood square

  7. I don’t understand what Iran was up to. The attack came from Iran which is 1,000 miles away from Israel. Even with missiles that flew at 2000 mph that’s a half hour warning. Every other munition was even slower requiring an hour or more to get to their target. Was this some kind of stupid feel good statement for the mullahs?

    The Israelis will not bother with some kind of long range retaliation on Iran. Instead they are going make major attacks on local Iranian partners in Lebanon, Syria, and maybe Iraq.

  8. Barry

    After reading the article about Orwell we see, even today, how useless a thing a fact may be. Like economics where spending is always portrayed as being made rationally those decisions are really made with caprice and whim.

  9. Well, yes and no.
    For the Soviets, many facts were in fact deemed , um, undesirable (but not in all cases—e.g., science and technology).

    And look what happened to the USSR.

    One could say something about the National Socialists.

    “Interesting” and/or most curious that—and I think this is Friedman’s point—today’s “cutting edge” activists/theorists/philosophers/academics seem to have selected the above two as their templates, models, heroes…

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