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Open thread 4/9/24 — 71 Comments

  1. He’s probably just embarrased to have his true weight known. Scales can be scary things.

  2. ’Chasing Trump’ — trailer for ‘CHASING TRUMP: Political Prosecutions. Justice Gone Wrong’ documentary…

    Ex-Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot is hired on $400-PER-HOUR contract to investigate ‘America’s worst mayor’ — ‘Self-described ‘Super Mayor’ Tiffany Henyard’. Er, OK…

    SCOTT JENNINGS reveals why Trump wanted his shock abortion announcement to be ECLIPSED — ‘..says it’s proof Republicans are terrified this issue will cost them the White House’. GOP missed an opportunity by not selecting Nikki Haley as their 2024 candidate, IMHO. Face it – identity politics is a major factor in American elections, and the GOP could’ve selected the first Woman of color to be elected President. “Pence slams Trump’s abortion stance as a ‘slap in the face’” so that’s another group that probably won’t vote for president this time.

    Living High on the Hogg

    2023 FEC filing from Leaders We Deserve .. reported $3,035,868.87 in total receipts in 2023. That is an admirable amount of cash for a totally new PAC.

    Of the more than $3 million raised in its first year of operations, the Leaders We Deserve PAC spent only about $263,000 on its stated mission of electing candidates from Generation Z to office combined with donations to other Democrat Party committees and groups—and instead spent more than $1.4 million on disbursements to themselves for payroll and to political consulting firms and legal fees, in addition to travel and entertainment expenses like hotels, flights, and meals.

  3. Nikki Haley was an embarassment in the primaries. She got few Republican votes. A large majority of her votes in open primaries came from Democrat voters that were always going to vote for Biden in the general.

  4. Kate, I am of the opinion that all are dead, and Hamas can’t admit to it.
    I can not understand the level of anguish the families are suffering. It is terrible. However, to reach a deal that lets a large number of Palis loose and pause the fighting to maybe bring them back isn’t the answer either.

    I have not been seeing the “official” number of deaths in Gaza lately. I would like those that believe the numbers to point to the graves. They can’t.

  5. GOP may wish to have had some “Democrat voters” votes before this election is over – however, right now the GOP is probably hoping to get as many GOP voters as possible to even vote this time. Electability counts…

  6. Hamas doesn’t care, remember Khaybar ill Ullah is their battle cry, the liquidation of the last jewish settlement on the peninsula, again I want to know where the hostages are, and their condition it seems the Foreign Office or the Quai D’Orsay or Foggy Bottom doesn’t care, of course we know the first and third role in stimmying the birth of Israel, and what can be said of the Quai in polite company, the way they dealt with the Shah, then Saddam and the Alawite crew

    so the ntsb chair who fumbled her way through a press conference, has no technical skills shes just a teamster official and congressional staffer, so tell me again how they are not destroying this country, and they stole the election to do it, and to enable the deaths of as many jews as possible,

  7. No truer words. Hamas doesn’t care. It’s why they recruit other people to blow themselves up

  8. Karmi, to put yours and Pence’s prognostications to rest–myself and all of my family are very firmly pro-life and quite frankly at this point as Californians put VERY LITTLE FAITH in the political process–but will vote in every election just as we always have. Trump has our vote, 1st as a protector of life in the womb and 2nd as a proponent of protecting our border which is THE #1 ISSUE as far as we are concerned in terms of government function. His statement exposes the Leftists for the projectionist entity that they are. “Democracy is at risk because of Trump’s position on abortion!” Right, bringing the issue directly to the states and their citizenry is a threat to Democracy! Lies, lies and more lies from our political adversaries. So effective and no surprise. Same old game.

  9. as I was saying the regimes who are under attack, the former keeper of the shrines in the Hashemites, and the current one the Sauds,did nothing to really delegitimate Qatar’s propaganda, since Al Shifa Hospital bombing, for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee, now Shambling’s flying circus, hasn’t made it easy, but that is ostensibly what courage is about, so like Atlas, Bibi carries the weight of the world, the legacy of his people, the defense of the west against such spineless weasels like Cameron, and co, I would check my silverware before the latter leaves Maralago,

    Bibi is an imperfect vessel, but tell me who is, for this Herculean task, Caroline Glick who has had some differences with him, at one point understanding the stakes involved, her latma skits were the best in satire available, until this latest one, name escapes me now,

  10. I was s Naval intelligence officer. Nimitz said we were w is the an extra battle group at Midway. Nobody listens to us anymore

  11. I can pull a trigger. Hell, I can fight with a rock. Or fist. But Intel can alsow wim

  12. ‘Saudi Arabia, Egypt, And The UAE Will Consider The Targeting Of Jordan As A Declaration Of War’

    That’s good news.

    This mess can be laid directly at the feet of the Biden administration. They’ve enabled/emboldened Iran to use it’s proxies around the region with the tacit approval of Obama/Biden.

  13. Brian E: Yeah, Neo and board members have discussed Israel’s possible Arab ‘Supporters‘ – Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, and Jordan maybe not be openly supporting Israel, but it’s pretty clear they would rather have Israel on their side than Iran…

  14. Not. The real Intel professionals wholl yell you what you don’t want to hear .

  15. A guy who used to work for NPR seems to have been somewhat red pilled regarding the outlet’s very obvious (to us conservatives anyway), heavy handed bias for years and years.

    If you are conservative, you will read this and say, duh, it’s always been this way.

    But it hasn’t.

    lol

    An open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR, and now, predictably, we don’t have an audience that reflects America.

    I’m dubious that a truly “open-minded spirit” ever actually existed at NPR. But whatever…

  16. Sharon W:

    myself and all of my family are very firmly pro-life and quite frankly at this point as Californians put VERY LITTLE FAITH in the political process–but will vote in every election just as we always have.

    Pence may have been Trump’s first mistake in a long list of mistakes. My “#1 ISSUE” this election has become Ukraine, i.e., one is either for Ukraine or for Russia, and I will not vote for any pro-Russia candidate (which Trump obviously is).

    Our “political process” has fallen to this point, IMHO:

    Alexander Fraser Tytler (15 October 1747 – 5 January 1813):

    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.

    When did the American voters in this republic/democracy first discover that they could “vote themselves largesse from the public treasury”? Long enough that we seem to be at the “selfishness” stage now, so it has been a long time — at least since the Social Security Act was enacted August 14, 1935 (88 years ago), IMHO.

  17. many of us, includng those who are resident from indiana, had reservations about him, who would have been a better viable candidate, he really did turn out to be a skunk weasel, too enamored of his own piety, maybe Tim Scott would be good, because of his earnest nature, of course, we have seen if you are on the left, and you basically have a pulse, they will make every excuse for you if you are on the right, and you are even more chaste then Caesars wife, they will destroy you,

    Pence, ended up being the hive for many swamp creatures like Olivia Toye who had no health care experience who proferred Scarf lady Birx and Fauci, who has buried many bodies, he enabled the fraudulent charges against General Flynn that he repeated in his memoir,
    that enabled Comey to play his game, that was the predicate for the whole Mueller game,

    imagine if the administrative state actually care about solving problems instead of creating them

  18. Karmi–the incursion at our southern border and the horrendous criminal/filth/financial fallout affects me personally every day. The incursion at the Ukraine border only affects me financially–indirectly as an American Taxpayer (open vein for years) who is sinking in the mire of debt, furthered by our support. Oh and the millions of dollars in arms left in Afghanistan to be used on 10/7 resulting in the need to support the Israeli border also a continuing offense against my grandchildren (and all Americans’ grandchildren) born in debt and counting. Generational theft. It’s a thing in the sight of God.

  19. miguel+cervantes on April 9, 2024 at 1:13 pm,
    ttps://twitter.com/SoundInvestig/status/1777697750764658927

    FBI Uses “Embellished” News, “Fake Social Media” to “Really Get People Mad”

    We call it ” fortification’.

    Merely fortified, as in election engineering in the name of democracy. Fortified as in, ‘with vitamin D’; as in “D’ for deceit, duplicity, and disinformation.

    It’s all good he assures us with a wave of his limp wrist and a giggle in his quizzical voice. You can trust him, he flies all over the country.

    When this becomes viral enough, he will be found indignantly exclaiming that he was never really a direct employee of the federal government, and was boasting because he hoped to impress another male who he hoped shared the same predelictions and would eventually force him down on all fours and make him squeal.

    Boasting to pickups in a coffee shop is safer than cruising interstate rest stops don’t you know.

  20. Taking advantage of the Open Thread Forum here–Yesterday in an effort to go to an under 30 minute drive to a pleasant place with my 5 and 2 year old grands, I finally made it to the Nixon Library. I’ve been to the Reagan Library scores of times over the years, having formerly lived nearby. Nixon’s is no comparison in terms of features and location but lovely nonetheless and served beautifully for my intentions. Monday crowd, so before we left, my granddaughter entered the empty theatre and wanted to see the film. Started in under a minute so with their ages I figured we’d be there about 1 or 2 minutes and then leave. They were all-in for the duration. At about 5 minutes in, my granddaughter (again 5–a very sensitive soul) was very concerned about the subject–the man, Nixon as the film rolled. “Is he still alive? Did he die? Is he OK?” The film began with his resignation speech. It was a well-done video compilation. Presented as his big achievements are of course his international outreach to China and Russia. But starting the EPA and OSHA (ouch!!!) as well as providing tons of money to minority groups etc. were presented as huge achievements. Seeing Bill Clinton eulogize him (wasn’t Hillary even seen as a malignant person by the Watergate committee that went after him?) I was reminded of the words of my freshman high-school teacher of international affairs who stated, “the only absolute in foreign policy is ‘your friends today may be your enemies tomorrow and your enemies today may be your friends tomorrow.” I guess that applies to domestic politics as well.

  21. Postscript–I just happened to think of the irony. The high school cited was Maine South in Park Ridge IL. Hillary Clinton’s alma mater.

  22. one might argue with some of the strategies pursued looking with a clear eye from half a century ago, was the china detente a good one, I tend not to think so, some attendant elements like giving short shrift to ceaucescu, as well as endorsing the ruinous Bengali massacre were not helpful either, unlike DeGaulle who was his idol in some ways, he did not have an animus against Israel, in fact if there had been no Watergate, it’s likely Moscow would have encouraged Sadat to invade Kissinger was too clever by half in many of these places, one might argue his role in encouraging the invasion of East Timor by India,

    he was much more a sober figure then most of the political class that followed in the 90s, and the less said about our current circumstances the latter, Trump took much of his instincts from Nixon, specially in disengaging from the Afghan
    conundrum,

  23. Nonapod links to a piece on the decline of NPR. (I caught it reposted to Zerohedge.)

    In less than three years, the audience numbers have collapsed to one-third of 2020’s.

    https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1777748522538066064?

    THIS must be some kind of record.

    I’m delighted!

    A comment on this piece at ZH reads:

    misesguy
    1 hour ago
    (Edited)
    remove
    I quit listening to NPR shortly after the 2000 election. It was toxic back then, can’t imagine how bad it is now.

    This was the final straw for me. Dianne Rehm did a show on “Is NPR drowning out conservative voices and opinions”. They were taking calls. This guy gets on and said he had called earlier and said he was a conservative and was hung up on. Called back and said he was a liberal and here he was….on the air. SHE hung up on him and said it was sad that people had to sink to being dishonest with their screeners just to get on the air.

    True story.
    —–
    CONTRARY TO URI BERLINER, they really do not want diversity of opinion at NPR. It’s White Supremacist racism today.

  24. “Trump proofing NATO”

    It’s a thing. Everything NATO does at this point is making NATO “Trump proof”.

    They’re going to show that boorish Trump what’s what! They’re going to provide for their own defense! That will show HIM!

    Is there anything Trump can’t do? He hasn’t even been elected and the EU weenies are running for weapons. Oh wait, they don’t have any weapons. Gotta build some weapons.

    There may be a downside to this. If, and it’s a big if, since Europe is all hat and no cattle, when it comes to their defense, but if Europe “securitizes” itself, it will probably lead to trade wars and the secret resentment/disdain Europeans feel toward America will bubble up.

    General Sir Richard Shirreff, former deputy supreme allied commander Europe, talks earnestly about what it’s going to take for Europe to take on Russia directly.
    The number 3% of GDP is mentioned.

    If that’s what it will take, they better all learn Russian.

    NATO ‘isn’t prepared’ for war with Russia | General Sir Richard Shirreff
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzzhQSEj-Nw

  25. Karmi, Haley is unelectable because most GOP voters see her as a neo-con. No different, really, than most of the Dems especially as regards foreign wars and spending in general. Sure, she might loosen up on energy production but I think she’s a stealth member of the Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse which means more spending and higher energy costs. And what exactly is her position on flooding the country with illegal immigrants?

  26. Scientists are blaming bird flu for the deaths of thousands of penguins in Antarctica. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you?

    One of the bad consequences of free range poultry raising is that the chickens are more exposed to the diseases of wild birds and die or have to be destroyed in large numbers. Nobody considered that in the war against factory farming.

  27. Karmi:
    …one is either for Ukraine or for Russia, and I will not vote for any pro-Russia candidate (which Trump obviously is).

    T’s statement that he wants people to “stop dying” does not fit into your dualistic perspective – nor does life generally. I understand the appeal of dualism. It’s more exciting. Heads up: The flow of life inexorably and inevitably leads to the peace and serenity of monism. After you calm down, you’ll learn to like it.

  28. Perhaps neo is right on Biden/Harris:
    _______________________________________

    Democrats cannot afford to drop Harris because that would be bad. And Democrats cannot replace Biden with Harris, because that would be even worse.

    So Democrats are stuck with Harris, and therefore they are stuck with Biden.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4581043-with-or-without-biden-democrats-are-stuck-with-kamala-harris/
    _______________________________________

    While the Dems are knaves at heart they may still be fools in execution.

    My notion that they are steely-eyed revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin and Mao may be in error.

  29. From last week:

    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg suggested that Ukraine may eventually have to make concessions in the war with Russia.

    He explained that military support is vital to repelling Russian forces and forcing Russian dictator Vladimir Putin to abandon his goals of occupying Ukrainian land.

    However, the Secretary General also suggested that Ukraine may ultimately have to make concessions as well.

    “At the end of the day, it has to be Ukraine that decides what kind of compromises they’re willing to do, we need to enable them to be in a position where they actually achieve an acceptable result around the negotiating table,” he said.

    Stoltenberg suggests Ukraine will have to compromise with Russia
    https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/stoltenberg-suggests-ukraine-will-have-to-1712432329.html

  30. Banned Lizard:

    You’re stuck on the western vision of Duality. Actual meaning of Duality is Simply not Two.

    Anyway, Trump’s statement now is that he will stop the Russian-Ukraine war in 24 hours if elected.

    Weird ‘Thang about that tho, is the Russian-Ukraine war was going on during the entire time of his term — and he couldn’t or wouldn’t stop it at any time during those 4 years.

  31. Who cares what Trump says about anything? The issue is Biden. The donkeys must, repeat must be defeated. The best way to stop Russia and Iran is drill baby, drill or frack baby, frack. That won’t happen under the walking dead.

  32. Power Line mentioned this and I followed the tweet – “??The world media won’t broadcast this??” – it’s an interrogation of Tariq Salami Otha Abu Shoulf a spokesman for the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization…

    The world media accepts what Hamas and Islamic Jihad say as the gospel, they do not understand that they are an integral part of the terrorists offensive battle plan. Hamas uses the world media as their iron dome, to prevent Israel from fulfilling our goals by manipulating minds of decent people.

    ??Testing??— OK…tweet had double red exclamation marks that don’t show up here…

  33. ”The incursion at the Ukraine border only affects me financially…”

    You couldn’t be further from the truth. The Ukraine war is the most important issue in the world today. If Ukraine falls, World War III is on.

  34. “…fools in execution…”

    This is allowable IF you have the corrupt media at your back…

    …that is, until the bottom drops out entirely.

  35. Sharon W:

    New York Times?? Zero Hedge is about as pro-Russian as it gets – renown for amplifying “Russian propaganda by publishing articles written by Russian state-run media.”

    Anyway, the CIA is everywhere there is a possible threat, and the sovereign Ukraine has never been a threat to American security.

    Maybe Finland & Sweden rushed to join NATO after Russia’s reinvasion of Ukraine—because they feared the Ukraine; however, I somehow doubt that that was their reason. 😉

    Ukraine has the potential to be the best ally America has ever had…but it seems that the GOP has come out in almost total support for Russia against Ukraine. With Russia and Iran as allies, I may end up voting for Biden in an attempt to save Ukraine…

  36. UPDATE on the Sharon W comment:

    I may end up voting for Biden in an attempt to save Ukraine…

    Correction on that quote. The “what President Putin has precisely accused Washington of” and the Zero Hedge link backing up Putin had stunned me. Have been voting against the Democratic party since the midterms of GW Bush’s first term—was also first time I had ever voted.

    I had noticed that Power Line & Breitbart’s boards had seemed to be pro-Russian in the comment sections, and in fact had some Russian Trolls on those boards (fairly easy to spot); however, just figured it was only a few GOP Russian supporters.

    Then I came to Neo’s blog here, and am realizing that the GOP is filled with pro-Russians!?! I mean “what President Putin has precisely” said as if what Putin says is to always be believed!?!?!?! Stunning…

    Anyway, back to the correction – still a new decision, but things are so bad in America now that I may have to start voting against the Republican party.

    GOP fell into a Democratic party trap by selecting Trump…

  37. I’m pro-Russian because I believe the CIA were active in Ukraine? What a non-sequitur. I’m pro-American for the record but since the virus (that another USA agency funded) almost killed my husband who was denied oxygen for a infection (the protocol since the 70’s) and all that has manifest since 2020, I faced some hard truths about how we function even in our own domain. The latest, Biden gives $6.6 billion to the former CEO of Solyndra responsible for missing hundreds of millions in Obama’s 1st term. Nothing these people do is in the American citizen’s interest.

  38. Karmi:

    Your black and white perspective on Ukraine is classic dualism. Ironically, you could use the underlying meaning of your Sanskrit letter/mantra logo to help your mind settle down and thereby save you from the errant dualistic path you are on. Otherwise, when you finally tire of imagining Russian spooks in every blog you visit, you’ll just move on to bedeviling yourself with new spooks (same as the old spooks).

  39. we’re not surprised what putin does, strength finds out weakness, the capitulation in Afghanistan, encouraged him to engage in a foolish and unnecessary exercise in my view, kamala punctuated the ridiculousless of our regime, remember that,

    but how has it benefited us, our energy supplies are weaker, their energy inventory is stronger, China has been pivotal in this exercise, the actual Russian agent, Major Peter Dobbins, not only escaped the leading scribes of MI 6, like Christopher Andrew, from all indications, Chris Steele’s Danchenko dossier served the function of crippling the Government much like the Zinoviev letter, ninety some years ago

    the bribe from Nordstream, helped disable our energy infrastructure, which enabled Putin’s invasion, it made Al Aqsa October 7th inevitable, concurrently they gave tens of billions to hamas, in aid, that had to have
    ended in the hands of the Nukba,

  40. Banned Lizard:

    Like I said, it is clear that your understanding of Duality is western linked. Simply not Two is eastern. I haven’t paid attention to the “dualistic path” for years—probably a decade or more. The logo is even older than that, and has the Linux Penguin added in case you didn’t notice.

    Like two golden birds perched on the selfsame tree,
    intimate friends, the ego and the Self dwell in the same body.
    The former eats the sweet and sour fruits of the tree of life,
    while the latter looks on in detachment’ – The Mundaka Upanishad

    Now, I do enjoy eating the wonderful ‘sweet and sour fruits of the tree of life‘ and communicating constantly with the best friend anyone could have, my Self. I don’t believe that it can get any better than this, and still life gets better every year.

    Thanks for your concern tho…

  41. Excellent points, miguel. What has been done to harm Russia has made them stronger and the Western allies weaker – even to the extent of harming Israel. Those reasons and a myriad of others make Team Joe an aggressively malignant cancer we must rid ourselves of as soon as possible.

  42. What has been done to harm Russia has made them stronger and the Western allies weaker –
    ==
    Thanks for the wishcast. They’re not actually stronger.
    ==
    The only thing done to ‘harm’ Russia is to put up impediments to their attempted conquest of the Ukraine.

  43. Denialists comfort themselves with the dangerous notion that maybe Team Joe has done something right. Surely they aren’t completely poisonous, eh?

  44. Boned Looser strongly disagrees with Art Deco.

    Oh noes, Vlad has made Russia so much stronger!

    These are a few types of Russian stregthening:

    People – 450,000 casualties,

    Non people – thousands of tanks, – hundreds of airplanes and heliocopters, -the Black Sea Fleet forced out of Crimea,

    Economic strengths – the collapse of the reputation and sales of armaments, – the loss of natural gas market share, – the loss of oil and gas facilities and market share.

    Yep stronger every day and in every way.

    Vlad is making Russia stronger.

    Much like sanguination cured sickness.

  45. om:

    Vlad has made Russia so much stronger!

    Sure has! Over two years trying to capture & own all of Ukraine – costing them over 450,000 dead Russian troops (huge amount of those were elite troops lost early on), reduced to trench warfare, reduced to using WW2 tanks from storage, etc. – if they spend 10 years in Ukraine like they did in Afghanistan they’ll be drafting 10 year old boys & girls for cannon fodder.

    Heck, they had to go to Iran – on hands & knees – begging them for help. Wonder what they are having to give up to Iran for that help? Bet it’s something to use against Israel—for sure. They even begged North Korea for help!?! Imagine having to ask North Korea for help…Jeez.

  46. He continues to impress me. Would make a good Vice President in the way he fends off media counterattacks and stays on message.

    He’s better at being Trump than Trump is.

    GOP senator downplays threat of Putin invading a NATO country as ‘preposterous’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjhvrTBVAP0

  47. We have fewer weapons we have less fuel were dangerously overlevereged we have no allies except the equally useless allies driven by self hatred and sky dragon adoration

  48. We have the Brandon junta to blame for nearly all those ills Miguel.

    Vlad sized up the Brandon junta and took advantage of the opportunity to attempt to solve his Ukraine problem once and finally. Unfortunately for Ukraine the Brandon junta F’s up everything including it’s “support” for Ukraine. Some will undoubtably be greatly disappointed in President Trump when he is reelected, actions to give Europe to Russian one final solution at a time are not likely.

    It matters more what President Trump does when he is elected, not what he says when campaigning. Does anyone remember “Lock Her Up?” He said a lot of edgy things but actually did a lot of good.

    However in 2017 he did not fully appreciate how bad the swamp is. I don’t think that will happen again.

  49. ”Then I came to Neo’s blog here, and am realizing that the GOP is filled with pro-Russians!?!”

    Yup.

    And this site is pretty reasonable compared to most conservative sites. All of the big right-leaning sites — RedState, PJ Media, Instapundit, Conservative Treehouse, Gateway Pundit — are all overwhelmingly pro-Russian. I don’t understand how one can look at the mass graves, the torture chambers, the miles upon miles of urban rubble and cheer it on, but they do.

    In my 40+ years of following politics, I never would have imagined it would come to this. Trump has destroyed the Republican Party and the conservative movement. America won’t be far behind.

  50. mkent:

    Trump isn’t pro-Russian, nor did he “destroy” conservatives. They did it to themselves – at least, some of them destroyed themselves – with the help of some other conservative (supposedly conservative) pundits and politicians. Trump merely acted to disclose what was already there.

    There are still plenty of conservatives who are not pro-Russian. Many can be found here.

    And if America is destroyed, it’s certainly not from Trump. It’s from the left and their destructive drive to complete power.

  51. Neo:

    Yes, this is still the best conservative site for content, tone, and commenters. But the last two years I’ve found that wherever Trumpers congregate, both online and off, the conversation turns vehemently anti-Ukrainian. Not necessarily among those who supported other candidates but came around to Trump when he won the nomination, but those who jumped in whole-hog when he came down that escalator.

    Witness the sites I mentioned above, or the commenters at Althouse, or those at Red State and PJ Media before they hid their comment sections. Streiff at Red State used to write detailed and informative articles about the war, and the comments would be filled with one tirade after another calling for the annihilation of Ukraine.

    ”And if America is destroyed, it’s certainly not from Trump.”

    No, not from Trump directly, but he’ll have had that effect. No, I think Trump was a patriotic American who thought he could help the country after eight years of Obama. But his ego and incompetence did him, the Republican Party, and most likely America in. It didn’t have to be this way, but he made it this way.

    I’m with Karmi. If you can’t take a stand against genocide, you’ll get no vote from me.

  52. Not sure why Putin’s grab of Crimea during Obama’s presidency AND Putin’s attempted grab of the Ukraine’s Eastern regions during “Biden”‘s presidency (but NO Putin attempts during Trump’s presidency) is so difficult to grasp.
    (…With Biden actually telling Putin publicly that the latter could take Eastern Ukraine but no more than that…before “Biden” was forced to walk that one back…)

    Nor what Obama’s “more flexibility”—mentioned off-mic to Medvedev in March 2012—might actually have meant…and MEAN.

    To which one might add, “Biden”‘s massive funding of Iran COMBINED with Iran’s providing massive amounts of materiel (mostly attack drones) to Putin.

    (Of course, it might ALL be merely a coincidence, I suppose.)

    But everyone else is irrational, right?

    Indeed, Ukraine must be helped to defend itself…but WHAT is really going on here??

  53. We’ll see soon enough. After the Trump’s GOP basically destroyed Haley & DeSantis chances in 2028 – if Trump loses against Biden again, then it looks like the MAGA GOP has saddled America with Democratic party Presidents for the next 12 years…

  54. They are turning the country into the soviet union imposing social credit (which is a thing in ukraine) spying on churches turning children into tattle tales

    Wake up people sheesh

  55. Miguel:

    It has also been reported that Ukraine has imposed Martial Law since February 2022! How unjust and repressive! No expected the Spanish Inquisition (from Kiev). (sarc x 11)

  56. mkent, I grant you that Conservative Treehouse and Gateway Pundit posts have gone off somewhere in the past year or two, but main posts at RedState, PJ Media, and Instapundit, not really. Their commenter cohort is kind of crazy, but if you stick to the posts for information, you can stay out of all that.

  57. We watched cities burn because a thug resisted police cops fall by the score churches set aflame yet when it came to a minor fracas they capitol klutzes murdered with cold abandon locked many in a horrid gulag of their divising tried to purge the military suppressed real news

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