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  1. A Turkish media outlet tried that stunt (oh, about 10-12 years back) and was subsequently severely criticized and reprimanded by the PA for dishonoring Palestinian women….

  2. Remember “Green Helmet” – the Lebanese civil defense worker Salam Daher? He got caught carrying around dead babies & children in a Muslim makeshift ambulance looking thing, then his cronies & actors would set up a photo op for the eagerly waiting press (especially AP)—controlled by Hezbollah, at a recent Israeli bombing site. That was about 18 years ago, and people are still willing to believe this Islamic BS.

  3. Today I went down the rabbit hole of Roger Waters’ anti-Semitism. Waters was the main creator for Pink Floyd’s epic 70s albums, “The Dark Side of the Moon” and “The Wall.”

    Though I was a stone (and stoned) Pink Floyd fan, I recognized the talent behind both albums but still hated them. I discerned a stupid, angry, childish attitude in those records that put me off Floyd’s otherwise grand Space Odyssey. And that attitude came down to Roger Waters.

    I stopped listening to Floyd until only a few years ago. Roger Waters had long split from his bandmates and tried to kill Pink Floyd forever, but the other three musicians took him to court and reasserted claim to the name and have done serviceable, if checkered, tribute to the Pink Floyd heritage.

    Waters is a piece of a work, as the Brits say, avoiding a more scatological reference. The bad blood between Waters and the other band members remains epic. David Gilmour, the guitarist, took over as creative helmsman with his wife, Polly Samson, writing many of the lyrics. Last year they threw a brutal Twitter brick over The Wall:
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    Wrote Samson on Twitter Monday: “Sadly @rogerwaters you are antisemitic to your rotten core. Also a Putin apologist and a lying, thieving, hypocritical, tax-avoiding, lip-synching, misogynistic, sick-with-envy, megalomaniac. Enough of your nonsense.”

    Gilmour quote-tweeted his wife’s missive, writing that he considered every word written by Samson against Waters “demonstrably true.”

    https://variety.com/2023/music/news/roger-waters-antisemitic-says-polly-samson-david-gilmour-agrees-pink-floyd-ukraine-1235515432/
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    There’s plenty of evidence that Waters is anti-Semitic, though of course, he strenuously denies it.

  4. Even the Biden administration signed off in 2023:
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    The Biden administration is weighing in on the controversy over Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters, saying his recent performances in Germany were antisemitic, an assessment shared by many in Israel and the pro-Israel community.

    The State Department said Tuesday that Waters has “a long track record of using antisemitic tropes” and a concert he gave late last month in Germany “contained imagery that is deeply offensive to Jewish people and minimized the Holocaust.”

    https://apnews.com/article/us-germany-roger-waters-antisemitism-3aa8d1dadf8d633f2c3274a6a8f9ef6f
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    I would be interested to understand the history of Waters’ anti-Semitism. Was he always this way? How do intelligent, informed people end up this way? Waters is not a stupid person. But though I’ve looked, so far I’ve not found an answer.

  5. Not ignore what was going on. It was just if you tried to point it out, every two-bit loser with a Liberal Arts degree would rush to scream “anti-intellectual”. So, leave the universities to die. The knowledge has escaped the campus and most schools are actual impediments to developing human capital, learning how to learn or how to discipline the intellect, regulate the emotions or establishing principles.

  6. Lex Friedman’s interview of Bill Ackman was interesting. It’s long. The first 2/3, or so, is primarily about investing. Around 2 hours in (Go to “College Campus Protests” in the transcript: https://lexfridman.com/bill-ackman-transcript) he discusses how he tried to get Claudine Gay to have fair and open discussion about Israel and Gaza after October 8th.

    I didn’t know Dartmouth handled the subject as well as they did and I did not realize Harvard, and Claudine Gay specifically, were so directly working to keep any fair or nuanced view of Israel off campus. Her behavior is absurd, coming from a College leader.

  7. in the end what they wanted was ‘thought control’ after all, from what I read of his bio, Waters parents died early in the war, he had conventional left politics, perhaps a dollop of guilt over the role of the British mandate, I know Vanessa Redgrave, is a trotskyite her grand neice has a role in the latest Statham film if memory serves, Le Carre nee Cornwell hell quickly into Arabism, even though he a Soviet specialist, Silva who borrowed liberally from Le Carre, had absorbed most of Benny Morris, first wave revisionist in his work, more than I though,

    the current monarch has shown strong arabist sympathies maybe stemming back to University under Rab Butler, and reinforced by certain Saudi and Qatari influences

  8. “How is it that so many people in the West either deny what has happened or excuse it or even support it?”

    A bit of dialogue from the movie The Wild Bunch gets to the heart of denial and excuse making in the face of inconvertible evidence that disproves their belief(s).

    “Pike: A hell of a lot of people, Dutch, just can’t stand to be wrong.
    Dutch: Pride.
    Pike: And they can’t forget it… that pride… being wrong. Or learn by it”

    As for the ones who knowingly support it… Victor Frankl became deeply acquainted with them; “There are two races of men in this world but only these two: the race of the decent man and the race of the indecent man.”

  9. @ Neo > “For a long time, too many people on the right ignored the rot that was going on in US universities, believing the fiction that when students there grew up and got out into the “real world” they’d shake it off. This was a possibly fatal error.”

    I’ve sometimes wondered why people had that opinion, given a couple of historical facts:
    (1) Revolutions and rebellions in Europe often began with a core of university students.
    (2) We encouraged young people to get a college education so they could go forth and change the world.

    Of course, we didn’t expect OUR young people to be those rebellious changers, but the violent and lawless protests (the adjectives are important) of the 1960s set a bad precedent that should have been nipped in the bud.

    That the nipping never happened started IMO with administrators’ cowardice allied with their ideological idealism, and resulted in letting marxists “skin suit” the universities, as Iowahawk famously observed (see sdferr’s link to Omni Ceren).

    https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-of-the-1960s/

  10. A quote from The Wild Bunch to start the morning! Well done, Geoffrey.

    Here’s my favorite Wild Bunch quote: “Even the worst of us longs to be a child again. Sometimes the worst of us, most of all.”

  11. “truth is relative”
    I’m surprised at the number of people that believe this. Long ago I was on a blog where a person was promoting relative truth. Presented a good case, too. I asked him if it was absolutely true that the truth was relative. He didn’t reply.

  12. Plato noted this with the Sophists, of course Plato’s conception of philosopher kings (so called) is probably why we’re in this mess in the first place,

  13. If as, uh, “Biden” claims the Palestinians are also suffering from Hamas terrorism then he should fully support Israel’s efforts to eradicate Hamas ASAP.

  14. Re: College students growing out of radicalism

    AesopFan:

    In the US it used to work that way. IMO something has changed. I blame social media and radical billionaire oligarchs.

  15. Gazan’s continue to elect Hamas so, sorry Joe, they are represented by them. I agree with Biden that Gazan’s are being hurt by Hamas which is the intent of Hamas. More victims, more suffering to fuel the propaganda mill.

  16. What I find puzzling is why do academics (“intellectuals’) always support causes that are radical, destructive, that cause chaos, that are out of mainstream (i.e., mainstream being the average person)?

    What is it about intellectuals that they always have to support a cause that brings attention to themselves, that allows them to be seen as standing apart from the hoi polloi, the unwashed masses?
    Are they all afflicted with some sort of personality disorder?

    The indoctrination of students in universities illustrates that having academic smarts or above average intelligence does not prevent them from being brainwashed. In fact, their smarts appear to make them more susceptible to being brainwashed.
    There are probably more students at Harvard that are Hamas supporters than there are Hamas supporters at Miami Dade Junior College (or probably any community college).

    Here is a very interesting interview of Niall Ferguson about his article “The Treason of the Intellectual.”

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