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  1. The words weren’t heated enough, in my opinion.

    I still remain slightly amazed- I’d be more so, but my amazement-organ has been burned out by relentless abuse- that people like Mark Esper still are unable to notice what’s going on.

    Cities are burning, at the hand of anti-American radicals, with the explicit support of many local governments- and Trump is the problem?

    Esper should be fired immediately. No president has had to tolerate this level of insubordination since Abraham Lincoln. No president should have to tolerate such insubordination.

    We should hope the present level of unrest doesn’t get worse. Of course, but if the left wants to turn this into civil war they should be careful what they wish for. In war, the enemy always gets a vote- and if they want to turn Trump supporters, conservatives, white people, into their enemies- they will not be the only people to employ violence.

    Alas- but they will have brought it on themselves.

  2. He’s right and they, as usual are wrong. I was thinking of her as a 2024 candidate. Not now. Pence we’ve known is weak since he was Governor of Indiana.

    Spot on.

  3. Off to the re-education camp for Drew Brees.

    Happy Anniversary to Ward and Kathleen Cleaver.

  4. I see National Review is out this weekend with criticism of Tucker for his monologue accusing Pence and Nikki Haley bowing to the mob.

    It’s PBS employee Ramesh Ponnuru. He could improve public discourse by defecting to chess or slave-trading.

    The remarks of Fiorina and the dame at the Heritage Foundation were particularly galling.

    It would be agreeable if the capable voices at NR would migrate to The American Spectator or PJ Media and the publication expires. It hasn’t recruited or developed an engaging contributor in nearly 20 years and attrition has been robbing them of the good un’s they once had. It no longer has an institutional mission other than multidirectional placation in order to keep National Review something of a going concern and it’s legacy employees collecting a paycheck. Somehow, it has managed to maintain 90,000 or so paid subscribers. I’m wagering about 1/3 are libraries who haven’t bothered to cancel it because it’s comparatively inexpensive.

  5. I think this gets down to where people rank in the victimhood hierarchy. Brees, as white guy, has no standing, so he has to apologize to anyone with victimhood standing. Brees has to play with these guys, and as misguided and brainwashed as some of his teammates are, they don’t have to alter their opinions to get along with him, he has to alter his to get along with them. Something similar happened to the coach of the Broncos a day or two earlier. Both of them were taken out to the politically correct woodshed overnight and appeared very contrite the next day. The offended party always seems to be the one the mob sides with.

  6. Very reminiscent of the USSR and Red China. Confess your crimes in public. Humiliate yourself or lose your job. Only right think is acceptable. It is disgusting and wrong.

    BLM and Antifa are now a bigger gun salesmen than Obama. Vigilante law may happen in some places unless this crap gets tamped down. Trump is right. These Democrat governors and mayors are not doing their jobs – protecting all their constituents and their property. If it takes the National Guard or the regulars to keep the peace, so be it.

  7. Patrick – most people apologize, when they should tell the complainers to pound sand and read the Constitution. Of course they don’t want to lose their jobs and their friends and be hounded by mobs; none of us do.
    That Jordan Peterson was willing to face all of that by defying laws that would force him to use misgendered (and illiterate) pronouns is what made him such a major hero to the right.

  8. Aesop – I agree with you. I wonder what pressure was put on these people and by who to get them to recant.

  9. The National Review lost me when it fired John Derbyshire. And of course, the issue was race.

  10. News host Chris Kenny at Sky News Australia says that journalists won’t admit the truth, but “There are signs Trump’s military threat ‘worked to some degree’”
    See two minutes here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcb0458XZFo

    Which is rather what I expected from a Trump’s leadership gambit, as well as “journalists” treason against their trade and our country.

  11. The National Review lost me when it fired John Derbyshire. And of course, the issue was race.

    Exactly and he got no points for his Chinese wife and Eurasian kids.

  12. The National Review lost me when it fired John Derbyshire. And of course, the issue was race.

    They had every reason to cut Derbyshire from the masthead in 2006, when he placed in the New English Review an obnoxious and silly rant trashing a book recently issued by one of the magazine’s staff editors. What Richard Lowry was telling you in 2012 was that flipping the bird at one of his employees (and at social conservatives generally) was acceptable but making some inane remarks about ‘Intelligent Well-Socialised Blacks’ was not. It prefigured what we saw after 2014, which is that Lowry is rather more influenced by the tastes and prejudices of people with degrees from the University of Virginia and apartments in Manhattan than he is by the sales rep who says the rosary outside of the Planned Parenthood clinic.

    Lowry also cut Mark Steyn from the magazine’s masthead because Steyn had written something that offended Jason Lee Steorts, the magazine’s managing editor. The magazine’s publisher made it clear in public print that he thought that a bad decision. That Steorts took offense at that particular thing marks Steorts as a whiny jerk. That Lowry sided with Steorts simply highlights how unsuitable he has been for the position he holds. That he continues to employ and provide space for people whose mission is to provide emotional validation for liberals (and that’s what Ponnuru, French, Charen, and Goldberg are doing) is another indication of his inadequacy. Look at their comboxes. Six years ago, they were dominated by their natural constituency (many of whom also despised Jason Lee Steorts). Many of us left when they made a series of technical changes which required parting with personal information (in the first instance) and then made the site so buggy it was challenging to read. We were largely replaced with liberals.

    he got no points for his Chinese wife and Eurasian kids.

    The whole point among gentry liberals is to manufacture status hierarchies and then injure people who refuse to pay them any heed. Blacks are their clients, so saying something undeferential to or about blacks violates status hierarchies. Blather about ‘racism’ has flat nothing to do with what my parents’ contemporaries would have called ‘prejudice’ 70 years ago.

  13. I wonder what those members of the 54th Massachusetts Volunteers, a black outfit as most of you already know, who died under the flag, and whose monument in Boston was just desecrated by “peaceful protesters” would think about kneeling. I doubt very much they would be in favor of it.

  14. Anybody remember how BLM sputtered and vanished from the news last time? Partly it was a lack of tragedies to exploit but mainly it was having no practical agenda to address the problem they supposedly care about. Without that, they’re left with marketing/performative efforts that have to get increasingly outlandish to maintain attention. And that eventually leads to things so stupid and offensive that push back becomes socially acceptable.

    The public humiliation of Brees and “defund the police” are the start of that,

    Mike

  15. mainly it was having no practical agenda to address the problem they supposedly care about

    They do and it’s Marxism, which can be a hard sell.

  16. Anybody remember how BLM sputtered and vanished from the news last time? Partly it was a lack of tragedies to exploit but mainly it was having no practical agenda to address the problem they supposedly care about.

    A mess of it was sorosphere rent-a-crowd. They quit cutting the checks.

  17. They do and it’s Marxism, which can be a hard sell.

    Disagree. Using various tools to harass and injure people they consider cultural adversaries is the whole point. There is no sophisticated social ideology behind it. An addendum is allocating escalating shares of our productive resources by public bureaucracies (which is a particular interest of sanderistas). That way, you generate more jobs for people who want to work as school administrators and social workers.

  18. The three “founders” of BLM are avowed Marxists. –Mike K

    Yes. Black Lives Matter is another Leftist movement built on the shoulders of those preceding. It as about Marxism, not race, but by trial and error American leftists have determined that race is their most effective weapon to pry open American society for attack.
    __________________________________________________

    When The Frontier Lab spoke with Operatives in the Black Lives Matter movement, they revealed that they had all been involved with other leftist movements, including Occupy Wall Street, but found that their involvement with Black Lives Matter was far more rewarding due to its success in the media and ability to create a sustainable and more widespread perception of moral authority. Operatives’ prior association with Occupy Wall Street reveals that their goals are not particular to the Black Community but to the Marxist ideals instead.

    “Frontier Lab: THE Privileged AND THE Oppressed”
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2016/08/research-report-blacklivesmatter-more-about-radical-social-upheaval-than-black-lives/</i

  19. During Occupy Wall Street I was amazed how many Americans, usually armchair liberals, leapt to the conclusion that OWS was a spontaneous, magical uprising of the oppressed and the decent coming together to remake a more just society beyond left and right.

    Of course “beyond left and right” always turns out to be the Left with some fancy new jargon or God talk sprinkled on top.

    In reality Occupy began as the brain child of the Adbusters Media Foundation — an anticonsumerist, anti-capitalist, pro-environmental organization that publishes a bi-monthly magazine, “Adbusters.”

    “Adbusters” is purely of the left and its culture-jamming strategies go back to the Situationists in the 50s whose influence peaked with culture-jamming France in May 1968.

    Occupy Wall Street was only the latest of many activist campaigns “Adbusters” had launched to forward their revolutionary leftist agenda to end capitalism and consumerism.

  20. Esper is another Mattis, Kelly, McMaster, Tillerson, Kushner…

    Fundamentally opposed to Trump’s policies and dishonestly pretending to be on Trump’s side. Trump needs to clean out the Pentagon and get patriots like Flynn into positions of authority. When the left tries a hard coup, he’ll need that backup. Ultimately the American Military is it going to determine weather Liberty survives.

  21. Richard Grenell has his first important exit interview with David Rubin.

    This is important for many reasons: his most recent tenure as Acting Director of National Intelligence : first, more Obamagate documents are coming.

    Second, his view of Washington, DC is that it’s an incestuous aristocracy filled with arrogance, fueled by money and exclusive power, and abusive towards those outside it.

    Third, he emphasises that Trump might be the only President in living memory who’s first night in DC was inside the White House. And that far outsider-status measure among billionaires is probably is unique yet genuine, because he’s always been an outsider throughout his career. Thus, Trump is the right kind of man to perform the job of breaking the Deep State.

    Grenell comments on his work as the Ambassador to Germany, saying that he’s for open and transparent public diplomacy, not old traditional, elite, and private back channels.

    Although his heart is correctly set and mind clearly courageous, Grenell appears to operate from a naive version of C. Wright Mills “Power Elite,” with neither the finesse nor bull-dozing power needed for rebuilding trust in government because it leaves much too much federal authority standing still, safely untouched, and not radically reconstructed. Just decentralise a Federal Offices to the provinces and all will get much better?

    So, we get all this noise, years of constant deceit, and furious high-level sedition if not treason? Yet, in a few four years more, all we’re gonna see achieved is a delay in the inevitable march towards oppressive pink-Marxoid socialism? Yeah.

    There’s much more there, and it’s sometimes, early on, quite personal. Please tell me I’m wrong! Let there be light in the window for greater optimism?

    “Ex-Intelligence Dir: Exposing What The Deep State Is | Richard Grenell | POLITICS | Rubin Report”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQBQwWn_8Cw

  22. huxley – it intrigues me that the Black Lives activists were so open with the researcher, Annie Sorock, and essentially revealed their motives and playbook without worrying that people were going to find that out in her report.
    Although this agenda has been known since 2016, no one in the Republican Establishment did anything about it.
    Which is one of the reasons we have Donald Trump.

    Another of her studies, in response to a report issued by the RNC in 2013, makes it very clear why he won the Republican nomination: support of the disaffiliated, but still voting, conservatives.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/new-study-sheds-light-on-why-republicans-wont-call-themselves-republican/

    Disaffiliation from the Republican label is not only, or even primarily, a matter of philosophical differences. Rather, the perception of former Republican adherents that their party has personally attacked them, continued to present choices as a “lesser of two evils,” select candidates and principles unpalatable to voters to the point where they retain “no hope,” and failed to provide the sense of community that other outlets like talk radio and the Tea Party provide, reveal that ideology takes a back burner to what is essentially a hollow brand for those disaffiliating.

  23. Because, of course she did.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/05/dc-mayor-muriel-bowser-demands-military-forces-leave-white-house-unguarded-while-simultaneously-organizing-violent-protests/

    Simultaneous to her demand that all security forces, including the added DC police, be withdrawn operations, the Mayor is helping to organize the introduction of far-left mobs under the pretense of her facilitating weekend mass protests against the White House.

    In essence, Mayor Bowser is simultaneously removing DC security and introducing an extremist force. This is beyond dangerous and appears to be an intentional effort by the mayor to force and create a violent Kent State type confrontation. This is Alinsky 101.

    Provocation to a specifically designed conflict is why Mayor Bowser had the streets painted earlier today; and why she is pretending not to know what the end goal is for the operation where she is a key player.

    Let’s hope President Trump hasn’t been set up again by resistance operatives within the White House.

  24. Because, of course they did.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/06/denver-broncos-declare-if-you-are-not-virtuous-enough-to-support-their-antifa-politics-then-get-lost/

    The NFL has been moving further and further toward the political left for several years. Many NFL players and teams openly castigate their fans and denigrate anyone who doesn’t conform to their political correctness. Overall, the NFL has become a toxic stew of identity politics and divisive intollerance.

    However, the Denver Broncos are taking division up a notch today by declaring if their fans do not stand with their brand of virtue signaling politics, then you stand against them.

    Quite a remarkable position. Apparently, in the endless quest to be the most virtuous, the team has decided to eliminate over half of their potential support base. Against the recent pressure upon NFL quarterback Drew Brees to apologize for supporting the U.S.A flag; it appears the NFL is a lost cause.

    Let the market decide.

    I would not lose a minute’s sleep if every sports team in the country stayed shut down, but I have friends who are fans and some who work in a support capacity, so this is not good.

  25. Trump is not the only President to have bad relationships with his Defense teams.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/06/04/flashback-barack-obama-was-blasted-by-not-one-but-three-of-his-former-secretaries-of-defense-n489295

    Why does this matter? Rest assured, this isn’t whataboutism. Let’s look at the reaction Mattis’s recent comments are getting, and compare that to the coverage Obama’s SecDefs speaking out against him got. Liberal media is praising Mattis, and moderate Republicans are finding themselves needing to take sides. Did this happen with Obama when three—not one, but three—of his former secretaries of defense criticized him and his leadership abilities? Of course it didn’t. I don’t agree with Mattis’s critique, but considering the way Trump trashed him I’m not surprised it happened. Trump, for whatever reason, rarely parts on good terms with people in his administration and it baffles me. But even more baffling is how the media couldn’t have cared less about Obama’s former secretaries of defense raising alarms about how Obama conducted foreign policy. Trump may pay a price for treating his former officials so poorly, but America paid a price for the media ignoring the constant stream of red flags during the Obama presidency.

  26. “When the left tries a hard coup, …. the American Military is going to determine whether Liberty survives.”

    If you had said this to me in, say, 2016 I would have thought you were nuts.
    Not only do I think it’s true but there’s doubt in my mind which side they’ll be on.

    Regarding Trump’s ability to power through the GOPe’s raft of candidates one thing I noticed early on was he and his advisors seemed to have read blogs and knew which issues were on our minds.
    That impressed me.

  27. I presume that this shocking, very worrisome, and infuriating photo linked to below is legit, and not photo shopped.

    I really, really do hope that it is photo shopped.

    Because, if legit, is shows that the rot runs very very deep indeed, and that our Republic, that we, are in a far more precarious situation than I had thought.

    Nice of these particular FBI agents to self identify as people who can’t be trusted, as people who should be fired immediately, since they have just demonstrated–in the most concrete way possible, by kneeling in sympathy and surrender–where their true loyalties lay, that their allegiance is to the mob–to the Left, to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, to the New Black Panthers, and to the other various Leftist “demonstrators”–and not to the Constitution, to the Law, or to our country and it’s citizens generally.

    See the picture at https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/07/fbi-pledges-allegiance-to-black-lives-matter-antifa-nation-of-islam-and-new-black-panthers-protesters/

  28. As the old lefty Pete Seeger union anthem demands, “Which side are you on”?

    The kneeling FBI agents pictured above are an indication of just how successful the Left has been in fraying, diluting, denigrating, and eliminating a positive image of the United States, the love of our country–warts and all, its history, Constitution, values, and heritage—what traditionally had been the inculcation of “Patriotism” in our educational system, such Patriotism which used to quite often permeate and inform, as well, our MSM, Literature, Arts, and “Entertainment” Media—in short, in our entire Culture–with the very deliberate result that these FBI agents no longer know “which side they’re on,” or should I say, they’re on the wrong side.

  29. I would not lose a minute’s sleep if every sports team in the country stayed shut down, but I have friends who are fans and some who work in a support capacity, so this is not good.

    Robert Stacy McCain pointed out recently that Marvel Comics decided they didn’t like their audience and reconfigured their product to appeal to people they fancied better than the audience they had. The result that ensued was multi-year double-digit declines in readership. Now, the Murdoch boys have decided they don’t like their audience either. It’s a pattern. It would be agreeable if particular franchises died out. If it’s all the franchises, please recall that in 1920, the two most popular sports in this country were baseball and boxing. Baseball acted to contain its corruption, boxing didn’t. As a spectator sport, boxing now ranks somewhere around 10th and is preferred by perhaps 1% of the audience for spectator sports.

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