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Open thread 10/10/23 — 73 Comments

  1. Still almost all of the coverage of the Hamas terrorists labels them not as terrorists but as “militants.”

    Talk about “a day late and a dollar short,” I note the announcement by the Israeli government yesterday that they are relaxing their gun control regulations to make it easier for citizens to buy guns.

    Would that this had happened months ago.

    Pacifism only works if your enemies agree with your philosophy, and leave you alone, otherwise, you are just asking for it, and presenting them with a juicy target.

    In fact, given the constant threat from all the hostile Muslims which surround them, why didn’t the government make it mandatory for every able bodied Jew to get arms training, and to have a handgun, a shotgun, or a rifle, in every house, along with someone trained to use them?

    It wouldn’t have been a perfect solution, but it very likely would have been a force multiplier for the military, would have lowered the number of defenseless Israelis who were slaughtered, to some extent blunted the Hamas terrorists attack, made the terrorists pay a much higher price, and killed a lot of these Muslim terrorists off.

    With this threat level, a gun behind every door sounds like a good policy to me.

    I guess the government didn’t want to project the wrong “image.”

  2. It seems to me that far too many in Israel wanted to deny reality and the level of threat they were under, hoping that some form of lasting “Peace” with Islam and Muslims was just over the horizon.

    From what I understand, new construction includes bomb shelters and older buildings have been retrofitted with them, but this is a passive response rather than an active, aggressive one, which would have been presented by training and arming the population.

  3. Snow, agreed. Last night I read a report from a Kibbutz that successively fought off the murderous thugs.
    My Wife just told me the debased Hamus subhumans posted a picture of two little girls they are threatening to murder if Israel does not stop their attacks. How, how, can anyone support and make excuses for this scum. They are showing pictures from Gaza that show kids that have been injured, yes it is terrible, but at this point I really don’t care. I guess that means I am making a moral judgement of whom deserves it and who doesn’t

  4. P.S. Lots of Israelis trained in the military, but I don’t believe that it was policy for them to take their handguns or rifles back to their homes after their service.

  5. If by the end of this Hamas still exists as anything more than a memory, then the IDF will have failed. At minimum, Hamas needs to be removed from the face of the Earth for the good of humanity and civilization. No quarter should be given until that is achieved. Obviously it won’t solve the greater underlying problems, but it’s the bare minimun that needs to happen.

  6. You can count on the Palestinians/Muslims—as they have been in many past instances–to be very savvy manipulators of the media, and with the assistance of their many supporters in the MSM, the world will be presented mostly with images of the bombing damage and destruction in Gaza, and of the “poor, innocent, harmless Palestinian civilians,” who are being made homeless and/or killed by the heartless Israelis, and not the images of these Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating the Hamas terrorist’s invasion of Israel, and abusing the corpses of captured Israelis as they are paraded through the streets in Gaza.

  7. If you are at war on the line you still dig a “fox hole” as soon as you can, it’s not being passive IIRC. You don’t give the enemy easy kills by being unprepared or lazy. They will counterattack.

  8. With regard to the accordion.

    I have some experience. I practiced for 1/2 hour every morning from 5th grade to 9th grade and took one 1/2 hour lesson per week.

    My grandma lived one block away and had a beautiful small baby grand in the front room. I desperately wanted to take piano lessons, but mom and her mom didn’t do so well together, so mom wouldn’t let me take piano at her mom’s house! However, she did try to make up for it with the accordion–after all, they both had a keyboard! And, “You can take it with you and entertain people”.

    I never liked the sound or the weight of the thing. I was never coordinated enough to push buttons with one hand and play the keyboard with the other. Not to mention I can’t carry a tune in a bucket!

    BUT THEN, and this is the most important part–it became visibly clear that I was becoming more than just a little girl. OMG! I was never going to have a bustline with that thing hanging around my neck! This realization called for desperate measures. I had to take action immediately! Thus began my strategic efforts to break from the accordion.

    I first developed one particularly polished talent. I would lock both ends of the instrument, unsnap the back strap, gather the two straps in one hand on top of the instrument, and slip the contraption off of my body while at the same time developing enough momentum to sling it (all 120 buttons) across the room in such a way it landed into the case sitting on the floor. Upon impact, the case slid along the floor banged against the wall, and snapped shut! Sadly, this did not have the desired impact on my mom.

    I then developed another strategy. It was required that I practice every morning at 6:30 AM. My parents were still in bed–I doubt if they were still asleep–how could they be? I purchased a copy of the sheet music for “Davy Crockett-King of the Wild Frontier” I then proceeded to play and sing at 6:30 every morning, all 21 verses of Davy Crockett. After two weeks of this morning concert it was decided that maybe I should stop taking lessons for a while! Free at last, free at last! Free to develop as every little girl hopes.

  9. Fox reporting a sickening tale: IDF finding about 40 babies killed and some beheaded. How does any real human behead an innocent baby?

    I hope these reports are not just to gin up anger, if so it’s working. If real, then we are dealing with a truly subhuman species that needs eradication.

  10. Ben Shapiro has put up an hour long video entitled “The Face of Absolute Evil” and urges us “Don’t Look Away.”

  11. That hundreds of people would be alive today, had they been armed, is so obvious it doesn’t need to be said.
    How Israel could allow this to happen, is beyond my understanding. the leftist idea that less guns = safety should be ridiculed and thrown away now.
    1500 Hamas animals caused so much suffering and loss. Now imagine what they WILL do, in NYC, or LA.
    decades of open borders, over 8 million mostly military age males. Does anyone seriously think that what you are seeing in Israel isn’t coming here?
    This society is wide open, as opposed to the surveillance state that is Israel.
    If you think the FBI or the CIA will protect us, I feel sorry for you.
    This weekend we have seen huge demonstrations cheering the deaths of Jews. In Europe, in America.
    Every major university in this country, Harvard, Yale, Stanford et al, have failed to condemn the atrocities.
    No one is coming to save us-they will cheer instead. As they cheer for dead Jews.

  12. Jim seems to be missing the point, that most of America is not unarmed, although if you live in NYC or Chicago, good luck.

  13. You notice that none of the Muslim nations have even wanted to take in these feral Palestinians but, rather, they are kept in Gaza or in refugee camps, which provide a useful pool of angry young men from which to recruit terrorists.

    Several years ago I discovered that the U.S. (through our UN contributions?) was actually paying for the “education” of these Muslims in various refugee camps, and it was also found out that the teachers that we were paying for quite often had ties to one terrorist group or the other.

    Gee, I wonder what these “educators” were teaching?

  14. That is my point. Most of America is unprepaired. Our electric grid can be hacked by a 12yo.
    Its a given that our major cities are wide open, and un protected.
    Weeks without power, food water and sanitation can change the equation dramatically.
    But yes, we are well armed, for the most part. Hopefully that will make a difference.

  15. Surely, the leftists protesting for Hamas won’t be targets of Islamic terror.

    Burning Man skated past for another year?

    “All infidels are the same. Allua akbar!”

  16. Thanks OM. I was hoping it would help some to have a little smile in today’s difficult time!

    “Killed him a bear when he was only three!” 🙂

  17. Anne,

    Weird Al Yankovic wrote a parody screenplay of music biopics “based” on his life starring Daniel Radcliffe as Weird Al. You many want to give it a view. His father shares your lack of appreciation for the accordion.

  18. The sanitizing of the Israel attack has already begun. I think some of it is ideological, but some of it is that we are just not used to thinking about this level of evil.

    What words do we even have to describe what Hamas has done? Don’t call them “militants,” I get that. Some are saying that they should be called “jihadist,” but is that really adequate? Terrorists? Yes, but that word has been drained of a significant portion of its meaning over the past few decades. Some are calling them “sub-human,” but they are all as human as you and me. They are expressions of the worst of humanity, but any student of history can tell you that what they express is most definately human. Butchers? Barbarians? Yes, but still inadequate.

    And what to call the event? It is an “attack,” but much more. Massacre? Attempted genocide? I can’t come up with anything that really fits.

    Is this what is meant by “unspeakable” evil?

  19. Anne that was “kilt him a Bar”.
    PhysicGuy, I think it was reported on the Daily Mail first. I tend to believe their reporting. Get better news from them than from ANY US source. I just hope it is not true, but I have to believe that it is true.
    Will the pro-palis call this “Jew Propagada”?

  20. Barry Meislin – Horrific. If this doesn’t wake up some on the left to what they’re really supporting, I don’t know what will.

    Also, the “noggin-scratching” here is important. The sheer difficulty of expressing the level of evil here will be a tool in the hands of the perpetrators. The manufactured outrage over the Israeli response is going to begin as soon as they cross into Gaza, and indeed has already begun. They’re going to broadcast Palenstinian parents cradling dead children from the daycares and schools that Hamas built next to their missle sites and command centers and claim that these Israeli “atrocities” are equivalent or worse to what was just visited on Israel.

    The sane are going to need a way to express why that is bonkers.

  21. Absolutely correct.

    Except that if one doesn’t seem to want to be able to try to understand “why that is bonkers” then is it really possible to explain it to that person?
    Hmmm. Maybe…

    File under: Exodus 17:8-16…except, who exactly is “Amalek”? (The answer for all too many myriads, including for some perverse reason a rather significant number of people who insist that they are Jews, is that Amalek is…in fact…the JEWS, along with the State of Israel…. Might this be the reason why the Jews are referred to as “chosen”?)

  22. Jim—

    Unfortunately, you are right.

    We live today in a society divided into two different worlds—left and right, conservative and liberal: one mostly living in a fantasy, the other more tethered to reality, to actual human nature and history.

    Those in the left, though, have succeeded in capturing the majority of our institutions and the levers of power.

  23. Virtually everyone in Israel has a military obligation and is receives training each year. In what fool’s mind did they think they needed to disarm a populace that is almost exclusive trained in the use of firearms? Complete madness.

  24. Ben Shapiro makes a couple of good points about Hamas barbarism. One is that Hamas has exceeded the conventional concept of evil by orders of magnitude. The other is that we misapply the words “animal” and “animalistic” to the behavior of Hamas, ISIS, and Hezbollah. Animals do not treat each other with anything like the cruelty of these savages.

    Islamic militants are intractably evil and inhumane because their religion’s founding document prescribes intolerance and inhumanity. We should face that reality square on.

  25. Arist.: Politics I, 1253a

    For as man is the best of the animals when perfected, so he is the worst of all when sundered from law and justice. For unrighteousness is most pernicious when possessed of weapons, and man is born possessing weapons for the use of wisdom and virtue, which it is possible to employ entirely for the opposite ends. Hence when devoid of virtue man is the most unholy and savage of animals, and the worst in regard to sexual indulgence and gluttony.

    https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0058%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D1253a

  26. there is a baroque level of delusion, among the so called prestige press, you though their russian hallucination was something, hold my ale,

  27. from the procopius like hagiograperhttps://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1711762323734462877

  28. Fanatic Islamists, while claiming to be monotheists, actually behave like pagans. In this case, with the appalling slaughter of children and infants, they are like their Canaanite predecessors. Moloch returns.

  29. “…leaders of civilized nations…”

    Yeah, you always struck me as an optimist…

  30. Notice:

    Power outage, internet down and may not be restored till this evening although perhaps earlier. I have a whole bunch of posts planned, and I should be able to publish them at some point today. Right now only my phone works, on mobile data rather than wifi, but posting and writing from a phone is very hard. So I’ll wait.

    Even with mobile data, my connection here is iffy. So, tune in later. Sorry!

  31. The savages do not understand that we are not savages by choice. When we have had enough it becomes “anything you can do, I can do better”.

  32. I have no doubt that the worse acts of the Hamas terrorists–some of which they proudly filmed–will never make it into the MSM news, they’ll be shoved down the memory hole, or not broadcast “to spare viewers sensibilities.”

    Just as the horrific scenes of 9/11 soon disappeared from the MSM, for fear, I suppose, of enraging the populace, these horrific scenes will get the same treatment.

    The thing is, after 9/11 we should have stayed enraged and motivated, we should have been constantly reminded of what took place and of who the terrorists where, where they came from, and the the ideology/”Religion” which motivated them.

    There should have been posters of the burning towers and the people jumping out of them on every street corner, this image used to start the day on every TV station, so we couldn’t forget, as we have so obviously largely done.

    And that was the whole idea.

  33. Sorry to hear that Neo, Eversource strikes again. IN CT I understand the total cost is expected to be close to 30 cents/kWh come January. Unbelievable. I’m so glad I don’t live there anymore. BTW, just for comparison, our total cost here is 13 cents/kWh.

  34. }}} I guess that means I am making a moral judgement of whom deserves it and who doesn’t

    The idea that one cannot make moral judgements is, indeed, one of the most perniciously stupid ideas PostModern Liberalism (PML) pushes.

    }}} of the “poor, innocent, harmless Palestinian civilians,” who are being made homeless and/or killed by the heartless Israelis

    Simple response: They VOTED these bastards in, and have continued to support their policies for multiple decades. They have not left the place, even though Hamas took the second most successful, prosperous region in all of the ME (Israel being #1), the Gaza Strip when the Israelis handed it over to the Pallys, and turned it into a total shithole. They have supported Hamas “hiding” rocket launchers on school grounds and hospitals. Seriously.

    Fuck ’em. Fuck ’em with Bougainvillea branches. Turn the Gaza strip into GLASS. Take any of their bodies, wrap them in pigskin and coat them with pig’s blood, then dump them into a big hole, soak the entire hole with pig’s blood, and cover it up with dirt. Sow the ground with so much radiation that the bodies can’t be recovered.

    I’m ok with almost any response to this. I’m sick and tired of people PANDERING to these murderous SWINE. It’s time they learn that the fact that we let them use our technology, does not mean that they have any damned CLUE what actual, serious reprisal means.

  35. }}}but they are all as human as you and me.

    Only in outward appearance.

    A dog foaming at the mouth is no longer a dog, it’s a mad, feral wolf. Even IF it’s name was once “Old Yeller”.

    By actions you demonstrate “Humanity”. By actions, you demonstrate barbarity. It is self-evident which they have shown.

  36. }}} OBloodyHell,
    You seem to be holding back. How do you really feel?

    Mostly tired. This shit was obvious in 2001, and probably a hell of a lot earlier. But too many people have allowed the BS to cover their eyes.

    The main problem here is that we have allowed the @#$%#$^ PMLs to push “multiculti” and “moral relativism” down our throats.

    Some ideas ARE better than others. Some ideas ARE dangerously pernicious.

    Islam is one of those. Not because it has to be — clearly Christianity was once pretty damned dangerous, too. Its history of antisemitism and The Inquisition and so many other things make that not at all unsurprising. But it’s been reformed.

    By the 1950s, Islam was on the pathway to reformation, too.

    AFGHANISTAN IN THE 1950S AND 60S
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/07/afghanistan-in-the-1950s-and-60s.php

    Category:Afghanistan in the 1950s
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Afghanistan_in_the_1950s

    Afghanistan in the 1950s and ’60s
    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/afghanistan-in-the-1950s-and-60s/100544/

    Granted, this was only Kabul, not all of Afghanistan, but it is clear, they were adopting a measure of western civilization. Given pressure and time, much of Islam might now be pretty civilized.

    But no, starting in the 60s, Islam started getting told that “their ideas” were “just as good as our ideas”, and that they needed no changes. And so they’ve backslid, steadily, into being almost inarguably THE most BARBARIC people in the world at this point.

    Plenty of exceptions on the individual level, but, not enough. The fact that you haven’t seen ANY significant group of Islam stand up and denounce the actions of Hamas should be pretty TELLING on that front**.

    Islam is really really good at hate. And hate is incompatible with civilization. So, lacking a lot of pruning, it’s going to continue as a very very dangerous meme.

    ======
    ** We are, in effect, being forced to police them, because they are NOT policing themselves. If a Christian bombs an abortion clinic, or kills abortion doctors, Christians are at the forefront of the search for the individuals responsible. Never true with Islam.

    So, “if you don’t like the way we’re policing you, fucking do it yourself, so we don’t have to”. Otherwise, STFU.

  37. Diane Brady of Forbes opens her interview with Alan Dershowitz with this mushy word salad:
    I mean we have to distinguish, I think, between, you know, Hamas, the militant group, and the people of Palestine, um, you know, the people living in Gaza. What do you say about that in terms of do you think that we are separating sufficiently the terrorists from the people who frankly are now being bombed?

    Because Hamas sprang into existence out of thin air and have no connection with the Gazans celebrating their exploits. They just happen to live there, and are harmless fans of terrorism.

  38. The accordion can be a great instrument, as with the bagpipe.

    But it must be admitted, Hell’s Quartet consists of the Kazoo, the Bagpipe, the Accordion, and the Harmonica.

    😀

  39. Sure enough, coverage of the “poor, innocent peaceful Palestinian civilians” is ramping up.

    No mention of the fact that a large majority of these same civilians voted in Hamas as their government, that many of them have cheered on the anti-Israel efforts of that government , and have been only too happy to turn out in the streets, to take up the cry of “death to Israel.“

    Frankly, as the reports of the horrific atrocities carried out by these Hamas terrorists mount up, I have less and less sympathy for the Palestinians.

    You reap what you sow.

  40. It has been said that house to house fighting in an urban environment is the hardest type of warfare.

    It’s hard to say and acknowledge but, realistically speaking, finding and getting all of those hostages to safety may be impossible, and Israel would be very wise to refuse to negotiate for their release, which would be a deal with the Devil.

    The only thing the Israelis may be able to do is to make the terrorists and their supporters pay an extremely heavy price for their savagery and barbarism.

    And if a lot of those supposedly “peaceful, innocent Palestinians” are caught in the crossfire or rendered homeless, let the nearby Muslim countries take their fellow Muslims in, and provide them with the things they need—medical care, food, shelter, etc.

  41. The fact that you haven’t seen ANY significant group of Islam stand up and denounce the actions of Hamas should be pretty TELLING on that front….

    For that matter, did any significant Islamic organization stand up and condemn 9/11 and its forerunners, and make a sincere effort to stop Islamic terrorism? They were pretty quiet if they did.

  42. For that matter, did any significant Islamic organization stand up and condemn 9/11 and its forerunners, and make a sincere effort to stop Islamic terrorism?

    Jordan Rivers:

    I’ve forgotten the details, but there was a demo organized after 9-11 in which Muslims were supposed to rally in NYC to show Muslims opposed the attacks.

    Four or five Muslims showed up.

  43. Re: Accordion music

    Back on a Friday night during the dotcom bubble an old girlfriend and I were walking downtown in San Francisco. We passed a coffee shop with a live act playing inside.

    Why not? We took seats and ordered coffees.

    The band was the “pickPocket ensemble” and they played this marvelous jazzy French gypsy music for cafes with violin, cello, bass and, ahem, accordion trading solos.

    Magical. They could have backed Leonard Cohen. Here’s one song with the accordion solo cued up.

    –pickPocket ensemble, “Memory”
    https://youtu.be/JHczMKQpwig?t=29

    They never cracked the big-time. They have a website and seem to be intermittently active.

  44. @ Barry Meislin: Did you note who else was quoted in that BI piece? Not that their choice of sources invalidates the analysis (I suspect “Retired US Air Force Colonel Cedric Leighton” is correct, but where was Mossad’s HUMINT?).
    However, it does make me wonder whose POV is being amplified.

    Another retired US military official, Lt Col. Alexander Vindman, said it was “kind of shocking” that Israel missed the planning of the attacks, while the former head of the Israeli Navy, Eli Maron, called it a “colossal” intelligence failure.

  45. @ crasey > “Jeff Greenfield makes the case that we’re witnessing a war between civilization and savagery.”

    It’s by Daniel Greenfield, but you are correct in your description.
    “Civilization and savagery are fundamentally at war.” – DG
    RTWT

  46. @ alan Colbo > “In what fool’s mind did they think they needed to disarm a populace that is almost exclusive trained in the use of firearms?”

    The disarming is BECAUSE the people are trained.
    Israel has been highly socialist-leftist from the beginning.
    There is no 2A for a reason.
    The relatively recent slide to the Right probably makes them very afraid of an armed citizenry.

  47. Switching topics, compared to the music of, say, shortly before WWII and for several decades afterward, most of the music today is crap in terms of lyrics and melody, and in these days of Autotune, really good singers are thin on the ground.

    First, here is an audition? tape by singer Tatum Langly.*

    Then, I found this 1970s style number in the Postmodern Jukebox series, also done by Tatum Langly, to be something that I really like.**

    Boy, she has some chops, and she sure cleans up nice!

    * See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjXLg_2pgOw

    ** See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnudfSrPvp8

  48. Re: Accordion

    I’ve long wondered what those little round buttons on the accordion were for.
    _________________________________

    The musician normally plays the melody on buttons or keys on the right-hand side (referred to as the keyboard or sometimes the manual), and the accompaniment on bass or pre-set chord buttons on the left-hand side.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion
    _________________________________

    Sounds complicated. There are multiple ways those little buttons work.

    Another surprise:
    _________________________________

    The number of accordionists in China exceeds every other country in the world, and possibly every country combined. Introduced in 1926, the accordion has risen to popularity in China throughout the years, thanks to Russian teachers and its being a popular instrument in the People’s Liberation Army, and remains popular

  49. Mention of The Ballad of Davy Crockett reminds me of an old parody:

    Born on a mountain top in Palestine,
    Raised on matzos and Manischewitz wine,
    Studied the Torah till he knew every line,
    Killed him an **** when he was only nine.
    Abie, Abie Klein, king of the wild Negev.

  50. Glenn Reynolds.
    https://instapundit.substack.com/p/is-everything-suddenly-going-to-hell

    Or are people just starting to notice?
    There are lots of reasons to feel bad about everything: The domestic political situation, the domestic – and global – economic picture, foreign affairs and national security, culture. And they’re good reasons, and you should be worried.

    But.

    It’s also the case that a lot more people are suddenly noticing how bad things have gotten. You see it on things like immigration, where now “sanctuary cities” are suddenly in favor of building the wall, now that people are actually immigrating to them. You see it in the parental pushback on school closures and trans craziness. You see it in the growing realization that the Biden Administration – and, really, the entire Western governing class – is clueless and inept on foreign policy and national security, and pretty much everything else. And you see it in a growing impatience with the gentry class fixations on race, gender, and climate change while ordinary people struggle to make ends meet.

    A few years ago most of our society was sleepwalking toward disaster. Now more and more people are awake and noticing.

    That’s not enough to solve the problems, it’s true. Public awareness and unhappiness is what we lawyers call a “necessary but not sufficient condition.” You can’t fix the problems without plenty of people being aware of them, but awareness on its own doesn’t fix things.

    Still, it’s a start. An analogy:

    I’ve worked on Second Amendment issues for three decades or so.

    Good lesson here: those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it; those who do, can choose.

    The first stage of that was the awareness stage, and though our fraught national situation in general is very different than the Second Amendment debate, we’re now at the awareness stage here.

    So much of what’s been done to this country over the past couple of decades has depended on convincing people that the problems aren’t real, a process taken to the point of gaslighting. That’s ending now.

    And for better or worse, but mostly better, the various organs of gaslighting have lost credibility. The press can still rally the folks who agree with it, but it’s largely lost the ability to mislead people who don’t, and it’s rapidly losing the ability to bully its political and ideological opponents.

    Once you have awareness, the next problem is organization. This is something where the woke crowd has an advantage. Because leftist politics is fed by a desire for a sort of almost tribal belonging, leftists are big joiners. Because they get validation from politics, they gravitate toward political groups and causes.

    There are some people like that on the right and in the middle, but fewer. (And libertarians? Well, as the old joke goes: “How many libertarians does it take to change a lightbulb?” “Only one, but you have to get him to show up.”)

    Still, self-organization in the face of a crisis has always been an American strength. And we’re looking toward having a crisis, or several. Is that bad? Here too, the answer is maybe, maybe not.

    I suspect some of our problems won’t be fixed without a crisis. The debt is heading toward a crisis, and I don’t see any way out of it short of some kind of default. That may or may not represent a calamity – the U.S. has defaulted before on several occasions, and the sky didn’t fall. But I think too many people profit from the status quo to make drastic changes until they’re forced to. People have been aware of the debt problem for decades, but nothing is ever done.

    But people who favor smaller, common-sense government should be ready to swoop in with solutions that encourage that in the future: Drastic government shrinkage, balanced budget requirements, narrower limits on federal powers, etc. There will be a moment when everything is up for grabs, and that will be the time to make a grab.

    I’ve made some suggestions along those lines here.

    There will be similar opportunities where the other crises are involved. Now is a good time to think about what to do when they present themselves, and line up some folks to help.

    I’d like to write more along these lines, but to be honest I’m tired, and a bit sad for obvious reasons given the state of the world, and I don’t have a lot of very clear answers tonight. Except don’t give up, keep telling the truth about things to whoever will listen, and work to build up a network of people you can trust and rely on. You’ll probably need them.

  51. Interesting, as always, to get Sarah’s European / American perspective:
    https://accordingtohoyt.com/2023/10/10/deep-shifting/

    On 9/11 it took some two weeks before my liberal friends started beating their chests and saying that it was all our fault for… existing, I guess.

    After the horrendous events of Saturday in Israel, twitter is already full of idiots, most of them, yes “liberals” (in newspeak, since they are totalitarians at heart) doing the two step of “Israel brought it on themselves” followed by alleged (they’re not. Well, they’re maybe European right, which is national socialist at heart) right-wingers doing the “let them fight” two step.

    I’ll just say it right now: if you can look at the wholesale slaughter of civilians, including grandmothers and babies, and say they had it coming, you’re a monster. And if you think it’s nothing to do with us, and both sides are wrong, you’re a monster and an idiot. An idiot at a level that I can’t begin to describe. I’m surprised you can breathe and walk at the same time, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you have to repeat at the back of your head “move foot.”

    Those who condone monsters are monsters. And those who think that throwing the baby off the sleigh will keep the monsters away are stupid monsters.

    If you think the monsters are only coming for Israel, and don’t have America — and all the West — on their sights, you’re an infant, and not worthy of speaking where adults gather.

    WATCH: Israel is only the first target, warns Hamas commander.

    [why & how the US two-steppers will incite disaffected violent factions in America to attack the rest of us]

    Our official response will be weak and vacillating. Our media will do its best to cover it up.

    It won’t work.

    Because something shifted overnight between Saturday and Sunday. Something in the zeitgeist. The quiet, private men and women who just want to be left alone woke up.

    She linked this post, which should be put into the context of the situation (since bob sykes is all about context today).

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-765304?dicbo=v2-OaEjqjg

    Footage of senior Hamas official Mahmoud al-Zahar calling for world domination has resurfaced online.

    “We believe in what our Prophet Muhammad said: “Allah drew the ends of the world near one another for my sake, and I have seen its eastern and western ends. The dominion of my nation would reach those ends that have been drawn near me,” Zahar said in the video that was published on MEMRI TV in December of 2022,

    “The entire 510 million square kilometers of Planet Earth will come under [a system] where there is no injustice, no oppression, no Zionism, no treacherous Christianity and no killings and crimes like those being committed against the Palestinians, and against the Arabs in all the Arab countries, in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and other countries,” he said.

    Leaving aside the blatantly false assumption that a totally-Muslim world will be without 4 of the 6 things he mentions: what other world governments does that promise remind you of?

    This Hamas Commander says this is not about land, not just Palestine. “The entire planet will be under our law, there will be no more Jews or Christian traitors.” Only then, if everyone adopts his law, will there be peace. pic.twitter.com/97sWBcH8yJ

    — CSW Latinoamérica (@CSWLatAm) October 8, 2023

  52. sd ferr, huxley, et.al.
    Thank you for your thoughts regarding accordion music. How could I ever forget Piazolla? That little group in the SF cafe was really nice.

    I think that our having kept this conversation alive in the midst of the current conflict is a testament to the valuable role that music plays in the human condition. It helps to remind us of our humanity–of all the good we can create.

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