DeSantis responds when asked if he’d accept being Trump’s VP choice
Talk about hypotheticals!
Of course, stranger things have happened than Trump choosing DeSantis as VP candidate. But not many stranger things; I give it close to zero chance of happening.
Nevertheless, DeSantis gave an interesting response to the question:
I think I’m probably more of an executive guy. think that you want to be able to do things. That’s part of the reason I got into this job is because we have action. We’re able to make things happen, and I think that’s probably what I am best suited for…
The whole party, regardless of any personalities or individuals, you have got to be looking at 2024 and saying, if the Biden regime continues, and they’re able to pick up 10-15 seats in the House and a Senate seat or two, this country is going to be in really, really bad shape.
DeSantis decided to accentuate his own positives – his success in an executive office – and not engage Trump at all. That second paragraph is also a recognition that Republicans should stop tearing each other apart if they want to have any chance of defeating the left in 2024. That should be top priority.
Trump would have to move from Florida as President and VP can’t be from same state.
I don’t think it would that strange. DeSantis would be crazy to not accept if offered. Maybe it’s the offering that would be the most unlikely.
Purportedly, T Roosevelt was selected for VP as a way to neuter him in a do nothing job. Look how that turned out.
Sorry I zipped past your comment Griffin. I’d never heard that before. Fascinating.
TommyJay,
Problem would be that DeSantis would then be attached to a losing presidential campaign.
And I assume he wouldn’t have to resign as governor just to run for VP although he would be hammered over that just as he will be if he runs for president.
It would be crazy for DeSantis to officially attach himself to Trump at any point.
Using once again the Powerball lottery analogue; the probability of a Trump/DeSantis ticket is a fraction of the probability of winning the Powerball.
Just checked; the odds of winning the Powerball jackpot is 1 in 292,201,337.
OK, for more realistic analogue; there is a greater chance of Obama being given an honorary Grand Wizard title from the KKK , than having a Trump/DeSantis ticket.
The same state issue is why Cheney relocated his home of record out of Texas.
I was watching the WSJ weekly editorial program and Karl Rove was a guest. He is, to me at least, the epitome of Establishment and Neocon Republicans. He criticized DeSantis’ slip of the tongue when he said Ukraine was not the most important issue for the US. DeS quickly backtracked when he got those donor calls. I agree that Trump is flawed but he always was. I fear a DeSantis presidency would be George Bush III.
If only Rand Paul would get interested.
Mike K:
You can fear DeSantis all you want, but the idea that he bears a resemblance to George W. Bush is very odd, in my opinion. Also, DeSantis originally said Ukraine was not a “vital national interest” of the US, and he never backtracked on that. You just read that he did. What he did was clarify a statement about “territorial disputes” that had been misrepresented. Take a look.
Trump would never agree, but the ideal setup would be DeSantis as Prez and Trump as veep. That would temper Democrat calls to impeach DeSantis.
If the “same state” assertion pertains to Const. Article II, Sec. 1, Clause 3, that’s on the one hand not what is written and on the other hand a bit of interpretive overshoot, I think. It might be relevant for the state of residence, possibly, though not certainly, but no other state so far as I can see.
Mike K, neo,
As I’ve mentioned here before DeSantis was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus along with the likes of Mick Mulvaney, Jim Jordan and Raul Labrador and was on the original board for the caucus.
But many seem to just gloss over the fact that DeSantis was even in Congress not to mention that he was quite conservative and allied with many like Jordan who are now loved by the populists.
Griffin:
They gloss over it because they are ignorant, or very susceptible to anti-DeSantis propaganda on the right (of which there is plenty), or both.
FWIW,
“What Ron DeSantis Did Today is END HIS POLITICAL CAREER!” Viva & Barnes on Trump Indictment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtFB8qn2hCs
Geoffrey:
Four days ago. Old news. Barnes has lost his luster IMO.
I agree about Barnes. His infatuation with Alex Jones (his source here for the END HIS POLITICAL CAREER theory) has always been a problem for me.
The entire ‘Trump can attack DeSantis and basically lie about all kinds of things about him and then DeSantis is supposed be the white knight that lays it all on the line for Trump’ thing is beyond insulting. And it (blocking extradition from FLA to NY) wouldn’t even work which just makes it more ridiculous.
Other than suspicions about DeSantis’ main donors (there’s a Bush in the woodpile), minimal damage to his brand so far. Said donors hope to keep it that way.
DeSantis’ donors and allies question if he’s ready for 2024
Periscope down.
The Trump team is now saying, reportedly, that anyone who works for DeSantis at any level, even low-level help on DeSantis’s recent book tour, will never work for the Trump campaign or in the Trump White House.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-blackballs-desantis-staffers
It’s not a Republican party, it’s not a conservative party, it’s Trump only, as far as he’s concerned.
Kate:
Hubris and just dumb. Not sure the Trump Team are the sharpest in the drawer.
om, I can’t imagine the team would do this without Trump’s okay.
I am not on the “Trump team” but do worry a bit about donors. 94% of DeSantis’ money has come from major donors. Only 6% from small donors. I started reading the new Claremont Review of books.” Big articles by Mark Helprin and Michael Anton on “isolationism.” Helprin is full on for Ukraine and intervention. Anton is the “isolationist.” I’m with Anton.
Isolationism, what could possibly go wrong?
History? What’s that? Flight 93 indeed.
Isolationism, what could possibly go wrong?
Well, we could retire some of our national debt, see less inflation and have a better life. Aside from that, I’m stumped. By the way, I am partly convinced that Pat Buchanan is right that we should have stayed out of WWI. I told a friend that who is a retired British army officer. He was shocked until I said, “You should have stayed out, too.” Then he looked thoughtful.
Otay. Fortress America protected by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans died a long time ago. That was in that old timey last century. Because there are not other nations in the world we could have unicorns and skittles raining from heaven.
Pat Buchanan and World War I, the great minds of history and arguing about things that didn’t happen but would have turned out better.
And again, Otay.
I am sure that there is a lot I don’t know about Trump/DeSantis, and I am by now too jaded to hope for a GOP win with a good candidate. (If it happens, hallelujah.) However, from where I sit I would imagine that DeSantis would consider being VP to Trump a special kind of hell (and I think he would be right). His saying “I think I’m more of an executive guy” was just his diplomatic way of saying “not just ‘no’, but ‘hell no’ “.
Strategy hint for Team Ron:
DJT: Either the DEEP STATE destroys America, or WE destroy the Deep State.
It’s a zero sum game for any legitimate conservative. Ignore flack from Trump and declare all out war on both the Deep State and the wokes. You don’t have to run an active presidential campaign to do that.
” Obama being given an honorary Grand Wizard title from the KKK”
Wouldn’t be surprised if he already has it…
I like DeSantis. He is a version of a Republican firebrand. He fights and fights.
Yet, I truly think he is more establishment than not. Or, at least, someone who the establishment GOP is willing to support over Trump, a firebrand that is both liberal and conservative and willing to poke both in the eye.
If Desantis is the nominee, will I vote for him? Yes. However, I fully believe he will be just like George W Bush and George HW Bush.
Why do I think this because of DeSantis’ track record in Florida? Florida is not Washington DC. To this day, DeSantis has not gotten the Trump treatment. Heck, he hasn’t got the W treatment … yet.
Our government marches left no matter who is in office. Trump was the first recent President who tried to go against that.
Look what happened to him. Will DeSantis fight or go along? Even Trump went along on some things, some very important things like the lockdowns.
This rant really points towards our long existing non-representative government.
JFK tried to fight it and Dallas, Texas was vilified for decades when his own government fought against sound investigation.
sdferr you are correct. Nowhere does the Constitution prohibit the VP being from the same state as the President, only that an elector cannot vote for both from his *own* state. Though since FL now has 30 electoral votes that is a significant shortfall ie a theoretical Trump-DeSantis ticket would be missing 30 electoral votes for one of the candidates.
Question for Trump supporters: who is an acceptable VP candidate? Even more important than usual because Trump can serve only one more term if elected.
Interesting to see so many folks speak of elections as if the USA still had legitimate ones.
In NH (I have not validated this, but then, it’s not my job!) I understand that 3000 folks who have long since moved out of the state but are still registered in and voted in NH (Did they vote in their new home as well or were their registrations coopted?).
Then there are the 6000ish out of state students who vote here. On and on it goes as the R’s cop some Z’s.
This pretty much sums it up.
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1640022412623323136
The mass residents have infected new hampshire ‘they dont really know how to ‘live free’ any more
JFK tried to fight it and Dallas, Texas was vilified for decades when his own government fought against sound investigation.
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The real John F. Kennedy was a mainstream Democrat of a less populist bent than the man who succeeded him. His death has been adequately investigated.
IMO, I would have liked him to say — firstly if I get in I am not going to lose. Follow that up with but if the real Repubs are that bent upon getting Trump in and he needs a guy with executive experience to clean up the deep state I am willing to serve my country in anyway.
The quasi-elective vice presidency is a witless 5th wheel office which should have long since been abolished. Ideally, we assign all federal agencies and corporations to a cabinet department under a single executive or to a trusteeship under a seven-member board and then assemble the departments and trusteeships into portfolios whose composition is at the president’s discretion. You can have each portfolio supervised by an appointed vice president.
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As for election campaigns, provide for political parties to be run, between party conventions, by standing conferences composed of their most recent candidates for public office – Congress and statewide office at the federal level, state legislative candidates and county-wide offices at the state level. If a candidate for a prominent public office dies during the campaign, is incapacitated during the campaign, or is removed from the ballot for some other reason, the conferences can meet on short notice and choose a new candidate so long as their is time to reprint the ballots (ten days will do). No need to have a formal understudy.
Jfk was a centrist figure like gaitskell in the labor party johnson was not certainly more to the left in fact he was more right in some aspects but more of a patronags politicians
DEEBEE, that could actually happen—in spite of all the current rancor, sniping and skirmishing.
Bury the hatchet (hopefully not in someone’s back) and move forward!
Can see it now: Trump DeSantis ’24 ‘n More…
Trump claims DeSantis would be working in a cigar store now if it wasn’t for his endorsement: ‘He’s got no personality. That tends to be bad for a politician’
Good luck with the running mate plan.
Why would DeSantis want to hitch his wagon to the train wreck that is Donald J. Trump?