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  1. I’m consistently impressed with how DeSantis excels at turning the Left’s own weapons against them and exposing their hypocrisies in no uncertain terms. He uses the power he has to great effect.

  2. So the books won’t be allowed on broadcast per FCC regulations, but DeSantis’s critics say they’re just fine for elementary school students. Perfect.

  3. Trump just rails at the Fake News. I saw at CPAC. He glints into the back of the room and points out the cameras. He’s being doing that since Day One. DeSantis, on the other hand, duped the lying liars in the Press and beat them at their own game.

    This is why I prefer Ron over Don. Ron is smarter at exposing the Left.

  4. I kind of thought this trans stuff aimed at kids and the porn in the libraries would turn people against the Dems. But looks like I’m wrong.

    All decent people should want to protect children. But not today’s Democrat party.

    Here in Nebraska two of the female state Dem senators have trans kids. Together, they are filibustering every single bill. They scream that the Let Them Grow Act, which would prohibit drugs and surgery on minors, is about “hate.” The idiots in the Press and social media repeat the hate charge.

    But it looks like the bill might pass. Others states have passed similar laws. Here’s hoping that the federal courts allow states to protect children from permanent physical harm and a lifetime of medicine.

  5. It’s understood within the male, gay community (and also well known outside it) that grooming minors is commonplace. A boy begins to understand he is homosexual and an older, gay man helps guide him into the culture.

    I use the verb “grooming” here to mean helping initiate a young man who discovers he has a homosexual nature into adulthood.

    Again, this is a fairly open secret. I think that’s why librarians and some school officials don’t see sexual fare aimed at gay boys as pornographic; but, for obvious reasons, they can’t discuss this in the open.

  6. Before DeSantis did this, I seen several YouTube videos of parents try to read some of those books at school board meetings only to have school board members get upset at the foul language being read to them!

  7. Related in terms of education: Gov. Huckabee just signed state wide school choice into law.

    The Founder’s idea of states as laboratories for policies is working. We have California, Oregon, NY, on one side and Florida and Arkansas on the other.

  8. I think there is a segment of the gay “community” that likes adolescent boys and grooms them. I know of a couple examples. Others are not similarly attracted or at least don’t act on it. That segment is not happy with the “trans” movement. Lesbians should be out raged at the trans movement but I wonder why some don’t seem to care.

  9. Without regard to the attraction of some gay males for young adolescents, I can see no valid reason for having public schools assist in the effort to move the young people into the gay culture. Similarly, there are indeed some young people, independent of the current social contagion, who feel they’d rather be the other sex. Without the social contagion, the vast majority of those cases resolve with the acceptance of biological sex, and I see no valid reason for public schools to attempt to convince children otherwise.

  10. his staff, redbern, pushaw et al, have been very effective and rapid response, the leg has also been helpful, trump had some swamp people he had to take on, and the possums in the senate, we’ve mentioned romney tillis and mcconnell, before that bennett burr and corker, were unhelpful, thats’ why the local blank pages tried to disqualify several reps that formed desantis supermajority, because of some straw candidates in the previous contest

  11. Is there a link to a video of DeSantis reading this stuff and the feed cutting away? I can’t seem to find it.

  12. They will suddenly decide that the FCC rules are unconstitutional under the 1st amendment.

  13. “I see no valid reason for public schools to attempt to convince children otherwise.”

    To be sure, it’s a most excellent way to destroy one of “Biden”‘s most dangerous enemies: the family.
    Also an excellent way to dumb down education (you don’t want people to be too smart, as they might start noticing things, analyzing the dictatorship and start thinking for themselves), which, essentially, encourages the destruction of the individual.
    And also a most effective to divide society so that you “enemies” can be, a la Alinsky, “targeted”, “frozen” and “personalized” (i.e., Rule #13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it”)

    If toxic destruction—sorry, transformation— is your thing (as is the case with “Biden”), then this is one of the foulest (i.e., most effective) arrows in your quiver, especially since you can get ’em when they’re young, pliable, impressionable—and dependent—which is “merely” straight out of the Communist playbook….

    BTW, this is precisely why alternatives, especially effective ones—such as Charter Schools—have to be targeted and destroyed by the regime.

  14. When someone hits Trump, he doubles down. He’ll hit above the belt if that’s available and below the belt otherwise. Always has, always will. That was a great MO to demonstrate that the right need not fold to every demand from the left. (I think the man met the moment in 2016 and credit to Trump for that.)

    Unfortunately, “hit back twice as hard with whatever stick is close at hand” is a terrible MO for governing and a terrible MO for building a majority coalition. Also, unfortunately, it is Trump’s whole schtick. He only has one forward gear.

    “Mean tweets” and bombastic speeches may thrill the remaining base, but they are not going to make a dent in woke. In 2023, Trump’s behavior is more likely to empower woke by turning the remaining normies off to the right, which is more or less what Trump has been accomplishing since his election in 2016.

    I don’t know if it is possible to roll back woke. It has thoroughly infested the elites in just about every facet of society. At this point, however, the DeSantis approach is MUCH more likely to succeed than the Trump approach. Despite the intentions of Trump and his supporters, the Trump approach is a one-way ticket to woke hell.

  15. I think there is a segment of the gay “community” that likes adolescent boys and grooms them. I know of a couple examples. Others are not similarly attracted or at least don’t act on it.

    I suspect an interest in adolescents is the rule, bar among the subset of gay males into body building. It’s just that they tend to put that aside out of prudence. The schmuck who was Mayor of Portland had, at age 45, an 18 year old catamite.

  16. Here in Nebraska two of the female state Dem senators have trans kids.

    IOW, they’re Munchausen mommies. Lovely.

  17. A boy begins to understand he is homosexual and an older, gay man helps guide him into the culture.

    That’s an overly charitable way of describing it.

  18. The concerned conservative™ returns.

    McTurtle knows how to govern, or grovel. How to build a coalition with the woke. Whatever, cc™.

  19. That “segment” are called child molesters. That segment has been trying to “normalize” their predation to the non-predatory society for years.

    May God have mercy on their souls.

  20. Bauxite @ 8:11: Astute comment. Trump is his own worst enemy and, as you say, has only one forward gear. I just hope he doesn’t ruin DeSantis’ chances. (Of course, even if Trump suddenly improved —or stepped aside— the Dems would continue to use him as the bogey-man to distract and mobilize their base). I’m not optimistic.

  21. I agree the books do not belong in Elementary school libraries and I see no reason for High School libraries to carry them either. I can fill hundreds of shelves with better books children and adolescents should read before diminishing quality standards to those levels. Let boys scour dumpsters for discarded nudie magazines, like I did in my mis-spent youth. 🙂

    I am also in favor of laws that protect minors and setting a universal age for “adulthood.” Although, of course, adulthood and childhood are nebulous concepts. Humans are not butterflies. But we need laws to protect children from predators.

    Sex can be messy and discovering one’s sexuality can be a bumpy road; especially in a nation that places a high values on freedom and liberty. Although I have no desire to live in a theocracy, one can understand the impetus of some nations to require chaperones for young women. In a real sense, predators are out there and they are prey. The same can be true for boys.

    No matter what books are where, or what laws are on “the” books, some older gay men will chaperone minor homosexuals into the lifestyle and some minor heterosexual children will hook-up. I’m more in favor of consent laws that address a difference in age, rather than stated ages. An 18 year old man or woman having sex with a willing 16 year old whom they have been courting for awhile seems like a different scenario than a 30 year old with the same 16 year old.

  22. Rufus T. Firefly @ 10:57: Well said. It’s comments like yours and Bauxite’s (and many others) that make this digital salon so classy.

  23. I was born and raised inside a communist country. They (communists) used words to twist facts and painted themselves as the victims/good and their ideological enemies as the aggressors/evil. The democrats and the deep state are doing the same.

  24. They are destroying this country and they keep the likes of warnock an enemy of everything this country in power

    It hasnt escaped that re j6 desantis has been basenji

  25. I think there is a segment of the gay “community” that likes adolescent boys and grooms them. I know of a couple examples.

    I believe the out-of-fashion term for that is pederasty, which is as old as time. And there’s not shrtage of historical examples from the classical era to modern times (NAMBLA).

  26. Nonapod,

    As the old adage goes, “You know how they separated the men from the boys in Sparta? With a crowbar.”

    Again, this is messy stuff, and age matters, but so does consent. And, again, to be clear, I believe in age of consent laws. It’s an inaccurate mallet, but societies need something to protect youths and their innocence.

    Some (all?) states have different rules when parental consent is involved. If a child’s parents deem them mature enough to wed, they can wed at an age below the local limit. I imagine all states allow marriage at an age younger than 21 and 18, even without parental consent.

    Two 17 year olds marrying? OK. An 18 and a 17 year old marrying? OK-ish. A 35 year old and a 17 year old marrying? Creepy. A 35 year old and an 18 year old marrying? OK? Is it different for homosexuals?

    Tricky stuff.

  27. I have a question that someone may be able to answer. Is the school library material DeSantis showed to the press allowed in public libraries or is that material under the same restrictions as FCC broadcasts?

  28. inca

    Who does the allowing in public libraries? I’m not sure there’s a law someplace. The ALA is pretty left wing.

    Although one experienced librarian said, of the books in a school library, if these were movies, we couldn’t show them to anybody under eighteen.

  29. Donald Trump’s stupid mouth which trashes DeSantis incessantly plays right into the Deomcrats plans.

    Miguel cervantes – maybe next time we run a better candidate than Herschel Walker?

  30. Bauxite

    As you posted “Unfortunately, “hit back twice as hard with whatever stick is close at hand” is a terrible MO for governing and a terrible MO for building a majority coalition. Also, unfortunately, it is Trump’s whole schtick. He only has one forward gear” – well said! All polls and surveys are in agreement with that. He has become the proverbial ‘one trick pony’.

  31. Who does the allowing in public libraries? I’m not sure there’s a law someplace. The ALA is pretty left wing.

    AFAICT, there are some decent Round Tables in the ALA, but the organization in general is quite silly. Which is a function of misconceiving library administration as a profession rather than as a collection of skill sets. It’s also a function of the self-understanding of the sort of people attracted to that type of work and willing to remain in it.

  32. The librarians are largely the problem

    We’re having this controversy because (1) they don’t do their jobs properly and (2) they’ve persuaded themselves that there judgment is not to be questioned because they are ‘professionals’ and (3) a certain number of them have issues. They’re librarians because it’s a great funkhole for people with issues who have certain other properties. For some of them, the ‘issues’ are manifest in buying porn for nine year old children. If school administrators were serious people operating in a regime with serious work rules, a librarian who did that would be out on her tuchus by the end of the week. Serious people no longer enter the school administrator trade, so the state legislature has to intervene.

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