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  1. My uncle, who was to marry my aunt later, was taken to England by his parents hoping he would forget that Catholic girl he had been seeing. They were booked on the Titanic for their return but were “bumped” and returned on another ship. Lucky for me.

  2. Thank you so much for posting the clip about the Titanic survivors. You’re right that the last one (the seaman) is particularly moving. I recently visited Belfast for the first time and went to the Titanic exhibition which I recommend to anybody who is visiting the city.

  3. The women commenting on the work of the Stewards was amazing. I think they knew that they would not survive except if they were lucky like the Seaman. He must have been very young himself.

  4. “We worked for Dr. Ben Carson. We know Dr. Ben Carson. Canceling him is just not right;

    Dr. Carson is a person of genuine accomplishment and not a beneficiary of the Democratic Party’s crooked patron-client regime. Cannot have that.

  5. So Griner released due to the administration…makes sense..black, lesbian, spent much of her press time dissing on the US; why not? Leaving a US Marine in Russia…of course!

  6. My understanding was that news moved around in those days via newspapers and amateur or ham radio. The latter worked a little like the childhood game of “telephone.” Actual telephones were not in use then.

    Because of the consternation caused by ham radio “misinformation” about the Titanic in part, congress created the progenitor of the FCC. What’s old is new again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Act_of_1912

  7. My understanding was that news moved around in those days via newspapers and amateur or ham radio.

    And telegraph.

  8. Art Deco:

    Paraphrasing some Soviet Wit —

    “They pretend to have press conferences
    And we pretend to ask questions.”

  9. Amazing. Thanks for posting, that, neo!

    I hated, hated, the Cameron Titanic movie. There was so much real, actual drama in that event none had to be created. Yet he created a stupid, false narrative about men behaving badly and classism.

    Astor, Guggenheim and Isidor Strauss nobly went down with the ship, for goodness sake!

  10. interesting bout’s successor in the business, was ali antar, the lebanese born ukrainian arms export officer, who was in charge of the network operation cassandra tried to unravel,

  11. Rufus,
    Have you seen “Titanic” (1953) with Clifton Webb? I saw it recently. I thought it was pretty good.

  12. Please pardon my ranting, but-

    The Biden white house has gotten a US athlete, Ms. Brittney Griner, freed from a Russian prison, by prisoner-swapping her for a Russian man who did illegal weapons deals.

    Goody, goody.

    Now, maybe- The Government, Biden, basketball teams, and the media, + can-
    TELL AMERICANS: DON’T TAKE MARIJUANA OR OTHER NON-PRESCRIPTION DRUGS INTO OTHER COUNTRIES.

    There are SOME COUNTRIES that will give you LIFE IN PRISON for that.

    Other nations, around Thailand, I believe, will just EXECUTE YOU, for bringing pot or cocaine into their country.

    Please read the foreign country’s laws on illegal drugs before you travel there, and then DON’T TAKE ANY DRUGS THERE.

    They can give you whatever punishment, or death, if you break their laws.

    If it’s in their laws, they can give you a punishment or death.

    (By death, I mean the death penalty. Some countries will give you the death penalty, without a trial.)

    Please be warned.

    No means no.

    Period.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

  13. TommyJay,

    I have not. I’ve only heard of “A Night to Remember*.” Of course, my brothers and I created some mischief on a steamer in, “A Night at the Opera.”

    *also unseen by Rufus T. Firefly

  14. Trading a violent arms dealer for a stoner giantess is a little better than the Bowe Bergdahl situtation was I guess.

  15. As someone pointed out on Twitter, maybe Ms. Griner will sing the national anthem now — especially when she thinks, if she does, about the US Marine still in a Russian prison.

    And TR is right. Griner had been in Russia before. She knew that the drug was illegal. If you go abroad, you are covered by their laws, not ours.

  16. @miguel cervantes

    Re: Alberta Sovereignty Act

    That article is profoundly useless. Unless one already knows what the Act is; even if I blindly assumed its purpose/result was in the name (an unimaginably naive move in this day and age) that still wouldn’t tell me much. It’s expressing the province’s sovereignty how? And to what practical purpose?

    On reading Wikipedia’s summary of the bill (the article there does not have a copy of the bill itself; on the other hand, the article still has copy that refers to it as a ‘proposed’ law) it’s effectively Alberta giving itself the ability to ignore Canadian Federal law on a case-by-case basis, for two years at a time. And demanding the same of any governmental entity (using a fairly broad definition) operating within Alberta.

    It claims it’s only for ‘unconstitutional laws or those which harm Alberta’ but that’s a big enough carve out you could drive pretty much anything you like through it. It’s also entirely unclear that it has any practical effect; activating the Act seems pretty much the same as passing a law, although I may be missing something through ignorance.

  17. I hated, hated, the Cameron Titanic movie. There was so much real, actual drama in that event none had to be created. Yet he created a stupid, false narrative about men behaving badly and classism.

    Rufus T. Firefly:

    Many people disliked Cameron’s “Titanic.” Including neo, as I recall. That’s OK.

    I can understand your point about “men behaving badly.” Although in the larger measure, the film included Leonard DiCaprio, a man, behaving magnificently and changing Kate Winslet’s life irrevocably.

    I saw “Titanic” not long after I started attending Tony Robbins events. DiCaprio’s interaction, while Winslet is contemplating suicide by leaping overboard, was a pure Tony-style intervention.

    I was not surprised. However one assesses Tony’s merits, he is a behind-the-scenes influencer, directly and indirectly, on many in Hollywood.

    There is always a political context, and for James Cameron that is a leftist context, but the appeal IMO of “Titanic,” beyond the effects, is the story of personal transformation.

    When I saw “Titanic,” it hit my Tony buttons hard. I practically rushed out of the theater to live the life I was given.
    ______________________

    To making it count.

    –Leonard DiCaprio’s/Jack Dawon’s toast in “Titanic”

  18. I don’t quite understand how things are so often radically bad these days. I realize it’s a tough ol’ world out there, but it seems like it’s gotten worse.

    Here’s one candidate contributing explanation. The drug market has shifted to cheap, ultra-potent, non-organic, always-synthesizable forms of opioids and amphetamines, i.e. fentanyl and P2P meth.

    So users now die or go brain-damaged much more quickly than in the past.
    ____________________________

    Both of them are intensely addictive, and both of them do a masterful job of what every drug of abuse has always done, and that is to hijack our instinct for self-preservation. These two drugs come in such enormous quantities and have such staggering potency that they do the job far more masterfully than drugs have done it before. So you have methamphetamine that is driving people to homelessness, and becoming incoherent and irrational and delusional and paranoid.

    Fentanyl is highly, highly addictive, and it’s basically ridding our country of heroin. There’s very little heroin on the streets of America anymore, which is an amazing thing to say. Fentanyl has essentially out-competed it. Both of those drugs, together and alone, make it so that people will literally refuse treatment, will literally refuse housing even when they’re living in tent encampments, even when they’re living in feces, in lethal temperatures, beaten, pimped out, because they do such a masterful job in potency and in supply of keeping, of thwarting that instinct to self-preservation.

    –“How Frighteningly Strong Meth Has Supercharged Homelessness”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-frighteningly-strong-meth-has-supercharged-homelessness/ar-AA14YlBr

  19. @ huxley – it’s rather frightening that the Democrats are enabling this drug disaster at every step, from policies that facilitate the import of the drugs (even if that’s not the purpose of their immigration and foreign affairs agendas, it is the result), through damaging in multitudes of ways the mental health of children, teens, and adults (which makes them more susceptible to addictions of all kinds), to the extreme of paying for the maintenance of drug users (including providing them with free paraphernalia, safe spaces to dope, and squatting rights on public streets).

  20. Both Titanic (1953), and A Night To Remember were very enjoyable movies, far superior to the Cameron movie. Plus A Night To Remember had David McCallium as Radio Operator Harold Bride!

  21. The Babylon Bee on the movie, because it was posted on Wednesday.
    Is this some kind of spooky “action at a distance” collaboration?

    https://babylonbee.com/news/james-cameron-releases-testosterone-free-cut-of-t2-where-arnold-schwarzenegger-is-replaced-by-kip-from-napoleon-dynamite

    “At publishing time, James Cameron announced that he would be releasing testosterone-free cuts of all his other movies too — starting with Titanic since he didn’t need to make any changes to that one.”

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