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Liz Cheney says: I am big, it’s Wyoming that got small — 42 Comments

  1. Perhaps she should rethink her brand and call herself ‘Beta’. the female ‘Beto’ of the old Wild West as she moves on to greater losses.

  2. To think she was in a leadership position in the House. And was confirmed despite a base uproar.

    Liz hopes to be a Good German sending people like us off to the Camps.

  3. Very sad. I had a short correspondence with her dad back in the day. We were both fly fishermen and loved Jackson Hole. Though the Iraq War was a mistake, I supported it at the time and was a strong supporter of W and Dick.

    Those who won’t learn from experience are doomed to make the same mistakes over and over. It’s now clear that Trump’s vision of not trying to convert the world to democracy and concentrating on our own best interests is far superior to “The Pentagon’s New Map” and all that it entails.

    Liz has obviously not been able to get past her dislike of Trump’s personality, and his criticism of the Iraq War. And by trying to discredit him, she’s aiding and abetting Biden’s climate policies, which will turn energy and ranch-land-rich Wyoming into an economic wasteland. She richly deserved to be trounced for not paying attention to her state’s best interests.

    President Liz Cheney? Apparently, someone has convinced her she’s of that caliber. Very sad.

  4. Theres so much wrong with thaf statement

    Lincoln was a veteran of the black hawk war, opposed the mexican war as a whig he wasnt content with their trimming on slavery like amnesty today

    Lincoln was much more of a maga guy (including tariffs) only when the Civil War was unavoidable he committed

  5. The Dems will slowly, every so slowly shove her under the Bus. Maybe CNN will pick her up, or FOX.

  6. @Dwaz,

    His brother has, Karl Rove has, and (no kidding) Al Franken has. So I would be surprised if Jeb hasn’t joined that “august” group.

    I’m enjoying the delusional Liz Cheney believing her own lies. The Norma Desmond analogy is spot on, Neo.

  7. As a strategy to get national attention and a run for some national office, this was a very good move on her part. The Cheney name has some recognition.

    The problem she couldn’t get elected in most states as dogcatcher as a Republican and the Democrats still hate D. Cheney’s guts.

    If she runs as an independent for President, she won’t get 5 votes from anyone who was considering Trump, so she’ll siphon a few votes from never Trumpers who would have voted D. or stayed home.

    On second thought, it was a very stupid move.

  8. If Rep. Cheney loses her race, maybe her dad could take her on a quail hunt to cheer her up.

  9. Ha, ha, ha Liz!!! Us Wyoming folks are tired of your carpetbagger, greedy ways. Good riddance! Your hubris is incredible. Way to go Harriet, who won 2 to 1! Wyoming needs a Congress person that cares about our State.

  10. Lincoln?
    That’s hysterical…
    Hold on, maybe she was referring to Mary Todd Lincoln?
    (Or maybe gets her ideas about Honest Abe from the “Lincoln Project”…)

  11. I guess it was her first rodeo after all, although she proved to be a rather bad, unfunny, clown.

  12. Like Donald Trump Jr said, the upside for her is that she won’t have to pretend to live in Wyoming any more.

  13. In a time when the Democrats have shown they will stop at nothing to destroy people, Cheney would rather destroy them herself against her alleged party affiliation. I bet Benedict Arnold felt he had a higher calling, too.

  14. Hubris is ugly to watch. Whatever happened to self-awareness?

    Just one more reminder of the contempt that Swamp creatures have for regular people in flyover country. Our judgments have to be flawed. We have to be stupid.

    One thing I find curious. Don’t these people understand that the more they tell me I am an idiot, the more likely I am to reject them? They insult me by insisting that my rational, informed and considered judgment in voting is nothing more than insane hero worship of Trump. Who do they expect to persuade with insults like that?

    Another curious thing for me re: bizarre rants like Jonah Goldberg’s latest or anything David French has written the last 6 years — do these people ever actually debate? Do they listen at all? How is it possible that so many conservatives and libertarians with every bit as much understanding of history and political science as the never-Trumpers can dismantle and trounce their arguments and expose the gaps of logic without them ever addressing the relevant points? Are they simply shouting in a soundproof room?

    Why would Jonah assume he knows how I think? Hubris is ugly.

  15. I will say this for Trump (who is not my preferred candidate in 2024 by a long means), he did us all a great service by being a dynasty killer (Clinton, Bush, and Cheney).

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  17. Like Donald Trump Jr said, the upside for her is that she won’t have to pretend to live in Wyoming any more.

    I’ll wager vacationing around Jackson Hole is more her dad’s thing, so the property she and her husband bought in Wilson, Wyoming will be going on the market.

    A critic of Teton County, Wyoming said the place is more an extension of California than a part of Wyoming. Cannot help but notice she won there 3-1 while losing 3-1 everywhere else. Her neighbors, such as they are, aren’t bothered by her, which I suppose is a small consolation.

  18. Another curious thing for me re: bizarre rants like Jonah Goldberg’s latest or anything David French has written the last 6 years — do these people ever actually debate?

    They’re on someone else’s dole. The Bulwark admits it is financed by Pierre Omidyar. About The Dispatch not sure. They have no street-level constituency.

    What’s interesting about these two is (1) they have no discernible interest in policy (except, in French’s case, to attack whatever Trump supporters might favor) and (2) they have no discernible interest in the procedural abuses which have been increasingly severe.

  19. }}} Very sad. I had a short correspondence with her dad back in the day. We were both fly fishermen and loved Jackson Hole. Though the Iraq War was a mistake, I supported it at the time and was a strong supporter of W and Dick.

    I assert that the only manner in which it was a mistake was that the Left were absolutely determined to lie and obfuscate every aspect of it to recreate Vietnam, and in that they succeeded quite totally — for the second time in US history, the Fifth Column merdia pried apart the jaws of victory and snatched complete and total defeat from it.

    We’d won, and, given a lack of support from the merdia, the opposition would have weakened and Iraq would be a shining example of a secular Islamic state.

    Instead, it is exactly what Vietnam was in 1980 — a basket case trying to recover from the rectal violation foist upon it by American Leftists, the absolute enemy of free and decent people the world over.

  20. Brian E. Is on the right track.

    The Dems need to distract people from the wreckage wrought – and promised – by their no-longer-hiding-it Marxists.

    They need to promise a return to normalcy and comfort.

    And they need to breathe some life into their pearl-clutching Orange Man Bad routine to cajole/shame the unaware and newly questioning back into the fold.

    A flag-waving parade of Rotary Club whitebread RINOs crossing party lines “to save our Republic from that awful man” is straight out of Central Casting.

    Re-read today’s coverage. This is Cheney’s line, repeated by the establishment RINO PACs. They have started reframing her January 6th inquest, and her campaign, and now her loss – and that of many other RINOs – in just this way.

    Cheney will be followed by Jeb, Romney, and others who, uh, no longer feel welcome among the Deplorables in the Republican party.

    Not a piercing or tattoo in the bunch… nor can they be tarred with the failures of the last 4 years. They can credibly promise a “more balanced” approach… which can mean anything a voter wants.

    The RINOs save their necks – at least for now – and it’s back to business as usual inside the Beltway.

  21. “…and…they have no discernible interest in the procedural abuses which have been increasingly severe.”

    This is despairingly true (as far as I can tell). Depressingly true.

    Where is GWB on these abuses?
    Where is Romney?

    Cruz, though he was insulted quite savagely by Trump during the primaries, brushed it off and is fighting the good fight. The Just fight…no matter what one might think of Cruz.
    (Fox News, except for Tucker Carlson, has officially situated itself in a very strange place vis-a-vis Trump, and I don’t believe it’s tenable.)
    For that matter, where are any of the Democrats? Can it be possible that Tulsi Gabbard is THE ONLY purported Democrat who knows right from wrong AND has the courage to express her wholesome convictions?
    True, Dershowitz has been reliably pro-Constitution, wherever that might lead him, but he’s not a politician.

    Can it be that all of them are compromised by business with China? Or maybe they believe—with absolute conviction—that anyone who stands up to China may end up causing a war that no one wants or need…so that therefore it’s far better to prevent war and make some money on the side?
    (The latest variation on Danegeld….?)

    Truly puzzling…unless one concludes that they’re all compromised in one way or the other…
    (Imagine the ethical standard being set by the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kizinger…)

  22. Instead, it is exactly what Vietnam was in 1980 — a basket case trying to recover from the rectal violation foist upon it by American Leftists, the absolute enemy of free and decent people the world over.

    The political violence from which Iraq currently suffers is in its dimensions 1 / 20th of what it was during the period running from 2003 to 2017. Proportionate to its population, the loss of civilian life among civilians is now less frequent than it was in Israel and adjacent territories during the period running from 1988 to 2004 and less frequent than was the case in Ulster from 1977 to 1999. Aside from political violence, it’s most salient problems are anemic economic performance and political gridlock in the legislature. (Bracketing out oil exports, Growth rates in per capita product (PPP) since 2002 have averaged 1.2% per annum and has been nil over the last several years). I’m not seeing what ‘American leftists’ have done or are doing to exacerbate this situation.

  23. The Bush/Cheney/Romney GOP is deader than disco.

    DeSantis and Abbott show the present and future of Republican leadership.

    Tulsi Gabbard and Kristi Noem have cojones.
    Asa Hutchinson and Karl Rove do not.

  24. Best tweet of last night:

    Jenna Ellis
    BREAKING: Fox has called Arizona for Liz Cheney

  25. I think Jonah Goldberg got tired of living on a shoestring and took the big money when it was offered. He used to drive across the country regularly and address college audiences. I’ve talked to him, and he has a better idea of what people think in the midwest than most East Coasters.

    He also has a visceral dislike of Trump that goes back years before Trump ran for president. It’s personal, even. And Jonah was one of the first to state that he would never vote for Trump. The problem with that, and the whole National Review crew signing on, is this: What do you do when it’s Trump versus Hillary?

    Tomorrow night is my Arizona legislative district meeting. They pull a good crowd and the candidates do show up. I’m going to grab the open mike and ask: How many folks here want to support Liz Cheney for president in 2024?

    I will be bringing a helmet and face shield. They’re having a raffle to raise money. The three prizes are all semiautomatic pistols. Need I say that no one will be doing a background check on the winners?

  26. I think Jonah Goldberg got tired of living on a shoestring and took the big money when it was offered.

    By his own account, he was in 1998 broke, which may have been true.

    He hasn’t ‘lived on a shoestring’ for some time. His name, his wife’s, and his daughter’s are associated with an address on Palisades Lane NW in the District of Columbia. The house has 3,100 sq feet of interior space and was purchased on 18 June 2002 for just over $1 million. Note, the IRS 990 forms for the National Review Institute have in the past indicated that a selection of the salaried employees thereof were paid salaries which suggested the transaction between the board and the employees was not arm’s length. It was most noticeable in re Richard Lowry and Kevin Williamson, but IIRC Jonah Goldberg and David French were also paid handsome sums for their work product. Both he and his wife came from wealthy families. His father died in 2004 and her’s in 2018. There may or may not have been assets distributed to them as a consequence of that or earlier in estate planning. His wife works in corporate communications. I don’t have the impression that that trade is all that lucrative. FWER, she has no LinkedIn profile. The timing of the property transfer was such (10 months after he married his wife) that I’m going to guess it was a wedding present from one of the older generation. Since his wife has eight siblings and he had one, I’m going to guess the gift was from his parents.

    I’ve had a gander at other addresses associated with his name during the period from 1990 to 2002. (One condo and several rental units, 600-900 sq ft). Washington was a great deal more crime-ridden in that era than it is now, so looking at a latter-day view may be misleading. One address is today listed as being in a sketchy neighborhood. The others look at least superficially handsome.

  27. Liz Chaney comparing herself to Lincoln has just demonstrated that her delusionary imaginings qualify her for membership in the Democrat Party. Of course another qualification is the willingness to lie and deceive, so she will continue to pretend that she’s a Republican.

  28. We are hearing the last of Liz Chaney, at least for awhile. When she is out of Congress, and power, no one will be interested in what she has to say other than for a brief period in early 2023 when she will be asked to recap her narcissistic crusade on Trump.

  29. O’Bloody H: “We’d won, and, given a lack of support from the merdia, the opposition would have weakened and Iraq would be a shining example of a secular Islamic state.”

    That’s exactly what was hoped for. IMO, no Muslim country will ever be secular for long. Turkey and Egypt were quite secular at one time. They’re both much more Islamic today and will probably drift further that way. We were bogged down in Afghanistan, where we’d won. The cost of keeping Iraq and Afghanistan stable was keeping troops there for an indefinite period. No way to stop jihadis from coming from all over the Muslim world to fight the infidels. Blood and treasure spent for what, exactly?

    “W” once said that people all over the world are yearning to be free. True that. But this country can’t simply exert our will and free them. There are too many sh*th*le countries where people yearn for freedom. The Pentagon’s New Map calls them the GAP. The idea was to bring them into the CORE – basically the G-20. Just too many GAP countries and not enough time, troops, and money.

    And look what’s happening right here. The Marxist’s are taking over our institutions. We’re in no position to free people who have no inkling of free institutions, freedom of religion, and all the basic building blocks to create a free country. We have our own mess to deal with right here.

  30. Dang, ArtDeco, that’s some research. Do you have a card? I might need to know some similar information on someone in the near future (not a joke).

    What you found fits what I suspected. Jonah’s parents do have some money, and it would make sense that they would gift the couple a decent home. How much was NR paying? I have no idea; as most of the writers sell to other publications as well, I figured NR paid in prestige and less so in money. Plus, there’s the NR cruise summer paycheck.

    I don’t know how much he made from his three books, but I’m sure it’s not Stephen King money.

    How much is he making for running The Dispatch? I have no idea, but probably more than he made at NR. He’s kind of painted himself into a corner with his anti-Trump crusade. He’s still a good speaker and quick-witted guest on TV, but his stock among conservatives has taken a big, big hit, and I doubt he’s getting those College Republican invites any more.

  31. }}} The political violence from which Iraq currently suffers is in its dimensions 1 / 20th of what it was during the period running from 2003 to 2017

    Yes, I’m sure all those people who assisted America during the war are just clapping with joy at the “new normal”.

    Oh, right, most of them are DEAD.

    }}} I’m not seeing what ‘American leftists’ have done or are doing to exacerbate this situation

    NOW? They already did the fucking damage. Are you utterly without clue?

    Yeah, things were a lot better in Vietnam 20y later, too.

    But hey, who cares about them yellow people? Or those brown people?

    I take it you’ve got a reason you’re being an apologist for the left, trying to say “Hey, nothing is wrong NOW!!”

    Well, except that they are, once more, an economic basket case and are always threatened by a resurgence of fundamentalist Islam.

    ================================

    }}} That’s exactly what was hoped for. IMO, no Muslim country will ever be secular for long.

    Turkey managed it for decades. It’s only with the resurgence of Islam thanks to leftist hand-wringing over them and the subsequent enablement that that reversed, offhand.

    I can’t say you are wrong, but, on the other hand, it would have been nice to try and actually give one a SERIOUS chance. “No. Fuck Muslims. Can’t have America do any good, what kind of shit idea is that?” sez The PostModern Left.

  32. A flag-waving parade of Rotary Club whitebread RINOs crossing party lines “to save our Republic from that awful man” is straight out of Central Casting.

    Bunch of LARPing “patriots”.

    They embrace the forms and institutions of American exceptionalism, but totally erode and deny its substance … that individuals are endowed with rights that are not to be infringed upon by bureaucracy, legislation, executive action or even a majority vote … in the pursuit of their definitions of “the common good”, no matter how virtuous it is in the abstract or how much it robs Peter to “help” Paul.

    They seek to play the hero, and end up as bulls in our china shops as they demand our praise and submission in flaming self-righteousness.

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