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This is one of <i>The Babylon Bee’s</i> best — 40 Comments

1. The Babylon Bee is so often close to reality.

2. That is why the Babylon Bee must be suppressed and fact checked! That’s not funny!

   By the way, how many leftists does it take to …..

3. Tucker featured the same Babylon Bee piece at the top of his program.

   I look at many or most of Neo’s links but skip many too. I recommend that people watch the entirety of the Sen. Warren youtube video. This is the political war.

   As Neo mentions, she is very dishonest.

   Did Mike Pence call for a national ban on abortion? No. Though his comments were similar to that, there were important distinctions. He respected state’s rights and calls for a fight from state to state. No new national laws. And he called for fighting for the sanctity of life, protecting the unborn, and support for women in crisis pregnancies.

   Don’t you love that quaver Sen. Warren has in her voice? And then the anger.

   For a long time I’ve thought that the posture of restrained anger was one of the better tactics for dishonest politicians to drive home their rhetoric. It usually has that feel of authenticity. Bernie Sanders is the master. For a long time I thought he was really authentic, though now I’m not sure. I think the vast majority of the top neo-Marxist politicians are swindlers.

   Here is a guy, David Portnoy, who represents my election fears. He’s no intellectual giant, and I don’t even know his schtick (team sports) very well, but he’s been consistently anti-establishment in his social media and slightly political commentary.

   At what point do you look at the Constitution and say, hey this was written by people who had slaves, and maybe not everything is exactly to a tee in the Constitution,” Portnoy bloviated. “Like a million years from now you’re going to use the Constitution as a document written in… it’s just nuts, in what world. The world evolves, people evolve, technology evolves. You gotta evolve.”

   – – –

   But to Portnoy, thinking that the Constitution is “end all and be all” is “literally crazy pills.”

   The boss of the popular sports website went on to damn both the left and the right.

   “The left f*cking hates me. The woke left, the liberals, they’re crazy. They’re insane people. Yet, I end up having to vote for a moron like Biden because the right is going to put Supreme Court people in who are just ruining this country, taking basic rights away,” he insisted.

   Yeah, who needs that dusty old Constitution anyway? Thanks dude.
   Apparently, Dave has never heard of a Constitutional Amendment.

4. The data may be a bit old, but I can’t imagine the Democrats’ numbers have improved since 2013:

   Identical percentages of women and men (62% each) are aware that Roe dealt with abortion. Nearly seven-in-ten Republicans (68%) answered this question correctly, compared with 63% of independents and 57% of Democrats.

   https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/01/22/young-adults-least-likely-age-group-to-know-roe-v-wade-about-abortion/

5. The Constitution or its Ammendments doesn’t have points, a ball, flashy uniforms, or cheerleaders. How fundamentally boring! You can bet on that.

6. I hate it when the Bee reports straight news.

7. Liz Warren has been a fraud by identity, and an intellectual fraud, (her scholarship on bankruptcy) why would you expect anything else from her, as for portnoy, what flavor bugs you want, because that’s where we’re going,

8. Warren is a lawyer and former law professor and she knows better.

   It must be her Indian blood.

9. Portnoy reflects a growing attitude among many Americans (not just rabid leftists, which he clearly is not): if ‘basic rights’ (to them that includes abortion, same sex marriage and…often..universal healthcare) are not guaranteed by the Constitution, so much the worse for the Constitution. The MSM is going to great lengths to stoke this view and portray conservatives and Republicans has fetishizing an ancient document written by a bunch of old white male slave-holding white supremacists.

   We all have an idea why this view is becoming so common: the success of the ‘long march through the institutions’ has rendered many Americans ignorant of civics, classical liberal political philosophy, social contract theory and the Anglo-American history behind all of the above.

   The question is what can be done about it? Can anything?

10. now biz markey, has not even a pretense to useful skills, he of course pushed the first climate change bill, with john kerry, now portnoy lives in massachussetts no, and the blanc mange of charlie baker is what he considers exceptable,

11. a mendacious and demagogic misstatement of many of the issues decided in Dobbs and likely to result from it, a speech designed to mislead and prey on fears

    That weren’t no Senator, it were a fake Indian rabble-rouser. How stupid must Massachusetts voters be?

12. Babylon Bee is hilarious, and it was ON FIRE yesterday!
    It is my “go to site” every morning (and evening).
    And, yes, it has become the “newspaper of future record”

13. “Fight, fight!” she screamed as beleaguered police arrived in riot gear

    to arrest her political opponents.

14. Another good Bee story–an in-joke for right-wingers, but I think most here will get it:

    ‘Pretty Cool We Overturned Roe, Right Fellas?’ Says David French Trying To Sit At Trump Voters’ Lunch Table

    https://babylonbee.com/news/pretty-cool-we-overturned-roe-right-fellas-says-david-french-trying-to-sit-at-trump-voters-lunch-table

15. Warren is right. From what I can tell, most Americans don’t understand Roe or Casey or Dobbs. Especially those waxing histrionic.

16. Warren is a lawyer and former law professor and she knows better.

    Unfortunately the one thing lawyers are really good at is lying. Admittedly much of my disgust stems from listening to the local NPR program on this stuff. (So much dishonesty but it’s pretty clear that they think all their listeners are either complete morons or tacitly agree with everything that’s being said.)

17. “Warren is a lawyer and former law professor and she knows better.”

    I’ve been wondering about that, not specifically regarding Warren but about a lot of people in the legal world, especially the academic part. Do they *really* know better? Or do they have a deeply and fundamentally wrong idea of what our legal system is?

    It sometimes seems that they have a great command of details but no sense of principles at all. As if it’s all just a big maze of more or less arbitrary rules. And they’re “good student” types–very good at storing up information, memorizing, taking tests, etc. But they have no big-picture sense of fundamental concepts underlying the whole common-law and constitutional edifice. So when they get to be lawyers, or law professors, or senators, they see the whole enterprise as a matter of navigating and manipulating those rules to get a desired outcome, with no sense of whether the rules have some kind of, so to speak, meta-rules. And they can be very good at that while being profoundly destructive of the foundations.

18. Mac:

    They learned it and rejected it because it doesn’t suit their desire for power.

    Some of them are constitutional law professors. See this.

19. Mac, A friend of mine went to Harvard Law many years ago. He quit after one semester because they weren’t interested in truth or justice, just how to use past cases to get what you wanted, that is, how to manipulate the law for your own purposes.

20. Yes, I know some of them are constitutional law profs, Obama being one. My question is a bit different. Yes, they had to learn it, in at least some superficial sense. But did they really *get* it, really understand it? I mean, the meta-rule or rules that I’m talking about are not specialized knowledge that only law students acquire, they’re accessible to anyone of normal intelligence and understanding. It goes beyond the question of the written constitution to the whole concept of a government of laws, not of men. Was it all always in their minds just a set of regulations without any principle except “what we want”? Did they consciously reject it, or did they never really understand and accept it in the first place?

    I guess these are idle questions, as the result is the same, for instance in Warren’s case. But I can’t help wondering. I had not watched the Warren video you posted when I made the previous comment, and now I’ve watched half of it, and there’s certainly no questioning her emotional sincerity. If she understands the decision, she is consciously lying with a great deal of fervor. If not, how can she have passed the bar, taught law school, without understanding?

21. Mac:

    My guess is that they understood it but never valued it, because of their political orientation as what Thomas Sowell refers to as “the anointed.” In other words, rules are there in order to limit those who would do evil, but not for those who would do good – and they are the ones doing good. It’s one of Sowell’s main topics and he’s written tons of good stuff about it.

    It’s also what this scene is about, a clip I’ve used many times:

22. In the interest of fair and equitable balance, I am submitting the following e-mail from a left-leaning friend of mine. He sends out e-mails to a mailing list once to thrice daily. I’ve asked him why (the h#ll) he insists on including me, as I’ve sharply and semi-rudely taken him up on some of his more silly and hyperbolic claims over the months/years, but his e-mails are a gift that just keep on a-givin’.

    Anyway, here’s today’s offering, a short one this time, from “eric” . . .

    “Well, the Supreme Court’s Religionistas — (six Catholic dictators!) — clearly don’t see that they are instituting and prosecuting Sharia Law in America. Maybe it’s time for a new 12-step: Tyrants Anonymous?”

    It’s followed by a link on which I haven’t bothered to click.

    P.S. — he is a very intelligent and literate fellow; I’ve been personally acquainted with him since college.

23. Dostoevsky’s “If there is no God, everything is permitted.” applies here. In fact, it’s at the root of the thought process those on the left.

    Absent moral standards promugated by an entity that transcends mankind’s limited and flawed understanding, all laws, regulations and moral standards are necessarily arbitrary for they then inescapably rest upon the current consensus of the mob. And what a current consensus of the mob can dictate, a later current consensus of the mob can, at its whim… amend or rescind.

    That arbitrary subjectiveness throws open the door for whatever is desired. For some, it’s about the acquisition of power by whatever means. For the majority, it’s about the end (moving toward utopia) justifying whatever means are necessary to accomplish that end.

    “Whatever means”… by definition includes infanticide.

    “Whatever means”… by definition includes political gulags.

    “Whatever means”… by definition includes social credit scores.

    “Whatever means”… by definition includes digital currency systems. Which will enable the freezing of access to income, assets and fiancial instruments of those the government has declared to be “domestic” terrorists. No due process needed.

24. Warren is correct. It is high time that she and her tribe organize politically for what they want, and do the hard work the Roe v. Wade decision allowed them to shirk for half a century, that is, the nearly fifty years they’ve spent weaponizing “a woman’s right to choose” for purposes of fundraising, propaganda, and sowing division. I have to wonder whether the prospect of having to finally work so hard is what’s really making her angry.

    It’s gratifying that she now has to come right out and demand access to abortion instead of hiding behind euphemisms like “the right to choose” (which I support, by the way) and “women’s health care” (which has never been limited to abortion or, for that matter, reproductive matters in general).

    Amid all her angry affect, I noticed that the one place Warren cracked the tiniest of smiles was when she said, “Roe is on the ballot” in November. I certainly hope so. I hope the next few months of Democrats’ harping on abortion will blow up in their faces.

    And I just love how she defines “America” as excluding half the voters. People are going to notice that–again.

25. Liz warren spent years peddling her dime store medicine, in two venues, one among the liv forum of oprah, colbert and dr phil, who couldn’t comprehend the level of her deception, but also among higher ranks of policy makers, she is the midwife of the TARP, the ARRA Stimulus program and Obamacare, bubble bubble toil and trouble indeed, the screed she touts now, is a more crude version of Janet Yellen’s that abortion is a social good, something that should disqualify from any semblance of policy making expertise,

26. Warren is not only a crude fabulist, but she is big heap mad as well!

27. Warren is correct. It is high time that she and her tribe organize politically for what they want, and do the hard work the Roe v. Wade decision allowed them to shirk for half a century, that is, the nearly fifty years they’ve spent weaponizing “a woman’s right to choose” for purposes of fundraising, propaganda, and sowing division. I have to wonder whether the prospect of having to finally work so hard is what’s really making her angry.

    MollyG:

    Well said.

    Once upon a time leftists had to be pretty damn well booked to make their points to the mainstream. That began to shift with the moral indignation regarding civil rights and the Vietnam War. The gears really started to strip, however, when feminists put men in the cross-hairs and disagreement became overruled on the basis of one’s genitals.

    I don’t mind that leftists want what they want and go for it. But I do mind that instead of making their case, they now try to make it painful or illegal to disagree.

    I think this trick has reached its expiration date. The other half of America has noticed and won’t allow itself to be overrun so easily from here on out.

28. @ MollyG > “It’s gratifying that she now has to come right out and demand access to abortion instead of hiding behind euphemisms”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/06/25/feminist-writer-abortion-is-killing-and-thats-ok-n2609310?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky1
    Feminist Writer Finally Says the Quiet Part Out Loud Regarding Abortion

    Yeah, that’s a rather blunt headline, right? It’s something that we’ve known for decades. It’s why this issue is intense, emotional, and loaded with nuance. With the Dobbs decision, the Supreme Court wiped out Roe v. Wade yesterday. It did not ban abortion nationwide. Abortion is not illegal. The Court did what it should have done with this issue eons ago—return it to the legislative process. There is nothing in the Constitution about abortion. There is no constitutional right to an abortion—that’s left-wing propaganda. The fact that the Constitution doesn’t say anything about isn’t a smackdown of the pro-abortion side. It’s a fact. Our founding document doesn’t prohibit it. That’s a good thing for both sides. Pro-life and pro-abortion wings of America can now mount a campaign through the legislative process to either ban or support abortion rights. The way is clear. If pro-abortion forces convince enough people, get enough lawmakers elected, and pass a law—then yes—there is a right to an abortion. For all the hate that was directed at the late Justice Antonin Scalia, he openly admitted that passing a law granting a right to abortion was the right way to solve this issue if that was your position.
    …
    The ballot box is how you keep society up to date. It’s not done through the Constitution, though the Left continues these legal wars because large swaths of their agenda aren’t popular. So, when it comes to this op-ed in The Nation, we seem to have the first talking point of the new messaging campaign: just admit that we’re killing babies, okay:

    The Nation post is also rather blunt.

    What would it mean to acknowledge that a death is involved in an abortion? Above all, it would allow for a fairer fight against the proponents of forced gestating. When “pro-life” forces agitate against feticide on the basis that it is killing, pro-abortion feminists should be able to acknowledge, without shame, that yes, of course it is. When we withdraw from gestating, we stop the life of the product of our gestational labor. And it’s a good thing we do, too, for otherwise the world would sag under the weight of forced life. It is a hard pill to swallow for a misogynist society, sentimentally attached to its ideology of patriarchal motherhood, but the truth is that gestators should get to decide which bodies to give form to. This choosing is our prerogative. A desire not to be pregnant is sufficient reason in and of itself to terminate a gestatee.

    I thought “birthing persons” was a bad enough euphemism for women (excuse me: “pregnant persons”), but “gestators” is worse.

29. @ huxley > “I think this trick has reached its expiration date. The other half of America has noticed and won’t allow itself to be overrun so easily from here on out.”

    A Dr Strangetweet was featured in both PJ Media and Not the Bee today.
    I recommend his entire thread (these are the first and last tweets).

    https://twitter.com/lone_rides/status/1540486553931218950?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    You don’t like the decisions yesterday and today?

    You’re really not going to like the next part.

    I mean, it’s your fault, but you’re not going to like it.
    ….
    There’s a saying about the danger of making people who want to be left alone get involved.

    You’ve made us get involved.

    So all of it, from here on out, is squarely on you.

    Enjoy the whirlwind you have so deservedly reaped.

    https://pjmedia.com/columns/kevindowneyjr/2022/06/25/dont-like-the-scotus-decisions-this-week-blame-a-greedy-liberal-n1607789

    https://notthebee.com/article/holy-smokes-this-dude-just-hit-the-nail-on-the-head-in-this-thread

30. A good post on what Dobbs means going forward.
    Also, Justice Alito is rightfully praised for the decision, Trump has garnered some kudos for appointing the newest conservative justices, but Bush pere gets some credit as well, for supporting Justice Thomas’s nomination.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/06/the_real_message_of_emdoddem.html

    It will also be interesting to see what happens the next time a SCOTUS vacancy needs to be filled. The progressive Left has long relied on judicial fiat to get a lot of its agenda enacted… because many of the details would nauseate most voters. Partisans on the right, however, see the return of authority back to the states as a conclusion of their struggle.

    This would be an appropriate moment to give well-deserved credit to George H.W. Bush, 41. Though not a particular hero of grassroots conservatives, he went way out of his way to get Clarence Thomas on the court. He could have easily pulled the plug, but he stuck to his guns and the nation has been much better off as a result.

31. Important points about Dobbs as a matter of conscience, not just of law.
    https://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/2022/06/24/toc-ready-room-24-june-2022-flawed-court-ruling-overturned-escalation-in-russia-nato-confrontation-gates-ag-buy-pushback/#more-6801

    The Supreme Court has not outlawed abortion. It can’t and shouldn’t do that, any more than it can tell states they mustn’t seek to limit or outlaw abortion. Given the language of our Constitution, starting with the 9th and 10th Amendments, it’s not the role of the U.S. Supreme Court, or indeed of any branch of the federal government, to impose a single solution on such a matter on the entire nation.

    If Congress wants to pass a constitutional amendment making it the business of the federal government, that would be another story. We’ll see how that goes over time.

    Meanwhile, the Dobbs ruling should make it easier for Congress and the state legislatures to reverse situations in which taxpayers are paying for abortions and abortion advocacy. Abortion is one of a number of decision-of-conscience things taxpayers should not be required to pay for, as if it’s settled sentiment in the community that abortion is a morally-neutral tool for public welfare. The enduring and persistently robust objection of most of the American people to unrestricted abortion (about 70% since 1973) has demonstrated there is no such sentiment.

    For five decades the Roe ruling has perverted the relationship of the government to the consciences of the people. The deeply corrupting weight of that, at least as regard abortion, has been lifted. The shrieking, obscenities, and death threats from pro-abortion extremists today (and in the last few weeks) are evidence of the corruption over time.

    The states are at bat now to see where this goes next. I saw a tweet earlier with a photo of Washington, D.C. businesses putting up plywood over their windows in anticipation of post-ruling violence from pro-abortion riots. I’m hopeful that the energy will drain quickly from the rioting. It doesn’t do any good to threaten D.C. now. The pre-ruling “leak” from the court on Dobbs failed in its objective, and the moving finger, having writ, moves on to the states.

    Worth noting: it was Trump’s SCOTUS appointments that made this ruling possible. I can think of very few, if any, Republicans who in Trump’s place would have stuck by Brett Kavanaugh under the most heinous political onslaught any of us in the living generations has ever seen. Without prevailing in the Kavanaugh appointment, just about anyone else (other than Trump) would have pulled punches with the next one, instead of going with Amy Coney Barrett. Quite a few potential presidents might have nominated any of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett, but almost none would have withstood the maelstrom to actually get all three through the Senate.

    Trump’s appointees were never guaranteed to rule as they have on Dobbs. The more important point is that they weren’t afraid to.

32. neo’s point at 6:16pm is extremely important.

    We need to be aware of this trait and learn to recognize it in others. And when we see someone has that trait we must comprehend he or she is our enemy. If they cannot be converted from the error and danger of their hubris shake the dust from your sandals and take leave of them. For goodness sake, don’t elect them or appoint them to any positions of power!

33. Regarding the Babylon Bee; Wow! Was this one ever thought provoking:
    https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester

34. Warren is a lawyer and former law professor and she knows better.

    Warren lives down to the worst stereotype of a lawyer: say anything to win.

35. I wonder if the Massachusetts rules on attorney conduct have a prohibition on lawyers making false statements regardless of whether they’re speaking on behalf of a client. If such a rule exists Warren could arguably get a complaint filed against her.

36. the success of the ‘long march through the institutions’ has rendered many Americans ignorant of civics, classical liberal political philosophy, social contract theory and the Anglo-American history behind all of the above.

    The question is what can be done about it? Can anything?

    Answer: Home schooling. My middle daughter, who was a Bernie Bro in 2016, has since married and had a child. She told us it has changed her life. She was 40 when Lily was born. We don’t talk much about politics but she has told me she plans to home school. She and her husband are art types, he is a successful sculptor, and she is a stay at home mom. Amazing what motherhood has done for her.

    I pity the “anti-child types that wrote that “The Nation” article.

37. The Bee has been on a hot roll lately.

    I think my favorite was:

    Pride Flag Switches To Infrared Spectrum After Running Out Of Visible Colors
    https://babylonbee.com/news/pride-flag-switches-to-infrared-spectrum-after-running-out-of-visible-colors/

    They also had this one on Friday:
    Weird: Democrats Suddenly Saying ‘Woman’ Today As If Everyone Knows What It Means
    https://babylonbee.com/news/weird-democrats-everywhere-using-word-woman-today-almost-as-if-they-know-what-it-means

38. There’s this one, too:

    If Only: Here Are The Headlines That Would Be In The News Right Now If Trump Were Still President
    https://babylonbee.com/news/if-only-here-are-the-headlines-that-would-be-in-the-news-right-now-if-trump-were-still-president

    • Nancy Pelosi announces 38th impeachment proceeding against President Trump.
    • Joe Biden retires quietly to home in Delaware to live out the rest of his days in peace.
    • Unemployment reaches 0% for first time in history, stock market gets so high they have to add another digit to the counter.
    • Trump holds ecumenical church council to unify all the denominations under the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
    • Disney talks about releasing a movie about the fictional movie about Buzz Lightyear in the fictional Toy Story universe but decides this is a terrible idea.
    • CNN+ goes under [our reporter says this is true in all realities].
    • Ukraine invades Russia.
    • Half-Life 3 released.
    • United States purchases Greenland in tremendous deal.
    • Americans save $1600 on July 4 BBQs.
    • American troops pulled from Afghanistan in careful, strategic, slow withdraw; 0 Americans stranded; utopia breaks out.
    • New York Times publishes article explaining why $1/gallon gas is bad and racist.
    • Trump defeats Kim Jong-Un in high-stakes game of Tekken 7, forcing him to free his people.
    • POGs make a comeback [it’s unclear if this was related to Trump].
    • President gives coherent speech.
    • Everyone who ever took their kids to a drag show arrested.
    • Disney, Netflix, dozens of other entertainment companies shut down under new anti-grooming law.
    • Vice President DeSantis sent to handle border crisis, actually goes to border.
    • Kamala Harris returns to former job as parking enforcement cop in San Francisco.
    • Trump achieves world peace, signs 7-year treaty with Israel.

39. The BEE: It buzzes…and it STINGS!!! GO, BEE!!!

40. Erisguy:

    You write: “Warren lives down to the worst stereotype of a lawyer: say anything to win.”

    In court, lawyers are bound by the rules of evidence. Ordinarily, they can’t just say “anything” to win. They can try to get expert witnesses to say just about anything, though, for a price.

    I would amend your statement to read: “Warren lives down to the worst stereotype of a politician/propagandist: say anything to win.” Many politicians are lawyers, of course, but many are not. Being a lawyer does give people training and experience in argument. So does being a debater. But the kind of reasoning Warren shows wouldn’t stand up in most courts of law (unless the case is political in nature and the judges and jury are biased towards it). It’s pure politician/propagandist.

    Also, when I wrote “she knows better,” I wasn’t speaking of behaviorally. I mean intellectually – she knows she’s lying and she knows what the law is.

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