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Remember that Indian study about the viral loads of vaccinated people?

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It’s been revised:

Ravindra Gupta, the director of the team at the Cambridge Institute of Therapeutic Immunology and Infectious Diseases that conducted the study, confirmed to The Fact Checker that the article had been initially rejected during peer review because a reviewer “was not happy with certain aspects.” The paper is now on its fourth revision — Research Square only shows the first version — and Gupta said that the “high viral loads” cited by the CDC essentially disappeared in the current version as more information was obtained from a third hospital. He said that revised paper is still under review for publication.

But hey, it served its purpose, right?

I criticized the study already here, although I didn’t yet know about this additional flaw. So much of what we read about COVID turns out to be untrue, and it’s hard to sort out the wheat from the chaff. Is it any wonder people have become distrustful as the MSM, many medical authorities such as the CDC, blue state officials, and the Biden administration try to whip up further fear?

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Remember that Indian study about the viral loads of vaccinated people? — 14 Comments

  1. Don’t worries Grandpa Joe is going to save us by restricting interstate travel to the vaccinated. No word on whether you will need your 3rd, 4th, 5th booster to get home.

    Masks forever vaxxed or not.

  2. I guess I have to point out that, yes, the paper was used to push remasking mandates, but peer review process probably is biased against findings that disparage the vaccines, too. At this point, nothing is trustworthy in the science publications in regards to COVID.

  3. I am watching Alex Berenson’s twitter feed (and his substack) as he continues to report on the apparent failure of the vaccines in Israel, and I’m also watching reports on medical studies finding particular genetic markers for severe COVID cases. It seems to me that a Jewish nation, composed of people who usually marry within a more selective group than their surrounding populations in Europe or other places, might have a higher proportion of a genetic marker which makes them more susceptible. But this would require solid scientific investigation, something we’ve been really short on in the past year or two.

    Meanwhile, I can look at the COVID death chart for India at Worldometers, and see the extremely steep decline when they stopped relying on vaccinations and started (or re-started) giving ivermectin.

  4. neo states, “So much of what we read about COVID turns out to be untrue, and it’s hard to sort out the wheat from the chaff.”

    Since that’s the intent, it’s hardly surprising. Nor will it cease.

    Medicine has been weaponized.

  5. The mayor of Hartford imposed an “indoor mask mandate” this week. As I work in Hartford, this annoys me. What annoys me even more is that while I was driving to the office I was treated to a clip of him saying that the city wasn’t going to enforce it, unless people complained about people not wearing masks in particular places.
    The recent “surge” in “cases” in Hartford is concentrated entirely in certain “communities.”
    The mask rules will not be applied or enforced in those communities. It will be applied where the Suburban, fully vaccinated people work.Where people complain about such things.
    I have been studiously ignoring this-except in the deli where I get lunch, because I know they will shut down the deli.
    Idiocy.

  7. Boatbuilder,

    As a fellow CT resident (who hopefully will not be such in the near future as we head to DeSantis land) I feel your pain. What is amazing about CT’s data is like other states, cases up, but deaths way down compared to January with the same case load. Even more amazing for the state is that CT’s 2 week average death is even lower than the other states now standing at 0.5/day.

    As for Hartford, we all know from the 2020 election map, that the vast majority of rural CT went for Trump, but as usual it’s the very blue Hartford, New Haven, New London, Norwich, Bridgeport, and Fairfield county which control the state.

  8. Masks are useless against virus spread. They are simply an oppression that is ruining a generation of young Americans who do not get ill with COVID. Period.
    It is criminally tyrannical.

  9. The hospitals in Tyler, Texas are getting hit pretty hard right now. At One of the satellite facilities , a doctor told me today he had 10 Covid Patients waiting to be transferred to the main hospital in that hospital system and the main hospital had 30 people waiting to get into ICU, if I understood him correctly. Ambulance drivers said it could be 2 or 3 hour wait to get into emergency room at the main hospital.
    Doctor told me that based on other countries waves, this should last thru September.
    My sister asked a doctor for Invercetin for my mother and the doc gave her a prescription. Whether or not that doc would have done that on her own, I do not know. It was an ER facility that positively diagnosed my mother with Covid. They did not offer Invercetin. My sister called mother’s regular doc and got the prescript.
    Ask for Invercetin by name to see what happens, if you need it.

  11. Griffin — thanks for sharing the Twitter feed. Very interesting.

    Most hospitals “right size” the ICU (and all the other care units) such that the units are at around capacity at any given time. I worked in a hospital for five years and I’m not sure I saw much more than one or two empty beds in the ICU’s. They also are NOT THAT BIG to begin with. No wasted space!

    So it doesn’t take much for ICU’s to seem overwhelmed.

    It’s pretty similar for ED’s: “right sized” so they is no “wasted” space.

    The whole focus on vaccination as opposed to effective early treatment is rearing its ugly head.

    You can get veterinarian grade ivermectin at any place that caters to horse supplies: Tractor supply, a feed store. Simple math can tell you what a human would need. (Plus, it’s apple flavored!)

  12. My mother originally got tested on the third day of symptoms. Both test came back negative. There have been reports of people with covid like symptoms in area with negative test, possibly some other thing. Had a 17 year old Nephew get pneumonia a few weeks ago, though he has always struggles with breathing issues. Thought maybe it was something non Covid. Went back day 10 after situation worsened and got positive test. Hospital said that false negatives from early test happen. So did not get Invercetin to later in the game.

  13. @Lee Also:

    It’s come to a pretty pass when we’re all looking for a trustworthy Horse Doctor. For ourselves.

    Houyhnhnms FTW!

    We might be living in the —redacted— Movie.. but they hired that talented Dean Swift to polish the script.

    Wait until you get to the Modest Proposal bit.

  14. I’m not sure that YouTube should have messed with Senator Paul.
    He doesn’t back down, except when tactically indicated to continue pursuing strategic goals.
    (He removed the “offending” videos to keep the rest of his posts available. Now that they are known to exist, they can be found and reposted in other fora.)

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/12/the-real-reason-youtube-silenced-rand-paul/

    Most recently, the cat video website YouTube silenced Sen. Rand Paul — a medical doctor — for posting a video in which he stated his studied medical opinion about a vitally important medical issue. Dr. Paul stands at the very intersection of politics and medicine — precisely where the issue of masks and the effectiveness of government mandates come together.
    …
    n his video that has since been vanished by YouTube, Dr. Paul warned against the false sense of security that cloth, store-bought masks provide people who are concerned about COVID-19. Lobbying for mask mandates, Dr. Paul warned, could be “potentially deadly misinformation.”

    Given the partisan track record of social media giants such as YouTube, the decision to disappear Dr. Paul is hardly a surprise. But just for the fun of it, let’s take them seriously for a second.

    Consider these statements:

    “In the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask.”

    “The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material.”

    “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.”

    “If you look at the masks that you buy in a drugstore, the leakage around that doesn’t really do much to protect you.”

    On their face, these all sound like pretty reasonable statements in a debate over whether we as a country should force millions of school children to mask up in order to learn how to read and do math. But in these crazy times, such statements have been deemed dangerous and anyone expressing them is immediately deprived of his first amendment rights.

    Only it was not Sen. Rand Paul who uttered those statements. Every single one of them was a direct quotation from Dr. Anthony Fauci, the lionized director of the federal government’s National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    Of course, Dr. Fauci no longer spouts such statements today, even though a year and a half of mask-wearing has conclusively proven that the statements are entirely true. Instead, Dr. Fauci now claims the exact opposite.

    So either he is a liar now or he was a liar then. If it is the former, then he is a dangerous liar — for he issued those deadly warnings against masks at the very height of the pandemic. And if that is the case, then Dr. Fauci is the most reckless, murderous public medical official in the land and should have been fired the instant politicians determined he was a liar and ordered up the first mask mandates.

    But this is the federal government, where useless bureaucrats come to die.

    The truth is, Dr. Paul’s real crime is not that he shares Dr. Fauci’s former opinion on masks. The real problem with Dr. Paul is that he openly calls on American citizens to stand up for their constitutional liberties at a time when they are under unprecedented assault by unelected bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci.

    “Resist the new world order,” he recently implored. “They can’t arrest all of us.”

    It’s the truth — but you won’t see it on YouTube!

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