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  1. Partisan Democrats make excuses for this sort of thing, or they pretend it isn’t happening.

    If our otiose and ineffectual Republican leadership wants to do something constructive, six pieces of enabling legislation resorting federal law enforcement functions should be on deck, along with a turnkey federal criminal code, along with a new federal civil service law. Of course, they will do nothing.

  2. “USSR’s KCB” ???
    I think you mean KGB..
    [Or was there a Beria at the Kansas City Ballet?]
    An organization that has had many name changes over time (now FSB)
    then there is the GRU we always forget (same with china we dont notice)

  3. They will not be happy till they have what they want and discover they dont want it, and there is no way back…

  4. Artfldgr:

    Well, at least I didn’t type “KFC.”

    Thanks. Will correct the typo.

  5. One thing I’ve missed is who was directing all this. Was it simply the FBI and the other agencies conspiring among themselves or was there a director outside the government pushing this? I find Strozk’s decision to prosecute the Flynn case after the recommendation that it be closed because of lack of evidence was very peculiar. Would a lifelong bureaucrat make such a momentous decision alone? Remember there was the Strozk/Page email exchange saying that the “Oval Office wanted to be kept informed” about what they were doing. I think that’s an important clue as to who was in charge. Inquiring minds would like to know.

  6. I imagine Sztrok wanted to keep it up for his own reasons. But yes, I think it sensible to wager that superordinates wanted this kept open, and were communicating with Sztrok through intermediaries.

  7. I tried to make it funnier with the Kansas City Ballet… wouldn’t it be a hoot that a Beria worked there? [I found a lady named Berea Flatness at Springfield ballet]

    on another note..

    Chicago pastor claims the mayor sent armed police in unmarked cars to bang on the church doors Sunday: It was ‘like the Soviet-styled KGB’

    And a real treat for those who have interesting memories!!
    ex soviets are remembering
    Brodsky’s poem Don’t leave your room – 1970

    Don’t leave your room, don’t commit that fateful mistake.
    Why risk the sun? Just settle back at home and smoke.
    Outside’s absurd, especially that whoop of joy,
    you’ve made it to the lavatory–now head back straight away!

    Don’t leave your room, don’t go and hail a taxi, spend,
    the only space that matters is the corridor, its end
    a ticking meter. She comes by, all ready for caressing,
    mouth open? Kick her straight out, don’t even start undressing.

    Don’t leave your room, just say you have the influenza.
    A wall and table are the most fascinating agenda.
    Why leave this place? Tonight you will come home from town
    exactly as you were, only more beaten down.

    Don’t leave your room. Go dance the bossa nova,
    shoes without socks, your body bare and coat tossed over.
    The hallway holds its smells of ski wax and boiled cabbage,
    writing even one letter more is excess baggage.

    Don’t leave your room. Do you still look handsome?
    Just ask the room… Incognito ergo sum,
    as petulant Substance once remarked to Form.
    It’s not exactly France outside. Don’t leave your room!

    Don’t be an idiot! You’re not the others, you’re an exclusion!
    Choreograph the furniture, essay wall-paper fusion.
    Make that wardrobe a barricade. The fates require us
    to keep out Cosmos, Chronos, Eros, Race and Virus!

    Translation by Thomas de Waal…

    MAYNES: The poem was composed in a kommunalka, a Soviet communal flat, notes Lekmanov, Brodsky’s tiny room his sole sanctuary from families down the hall who might be reporting on him and a lone refuge from endless squabbles in a shared kitchen that smelt of boiled cabbage. [snip] Brodsky vows to use his bedroom dresser as a barricade against, among other things, a virus – an eerie reference that has helped this 50-year-old poem go, well, viral.

    Brodsky was convicted of the crime of social parasitism and sentenced to exile with compulsory labor in northern Russia…

    History Rhymes…

    Soviet authorities kicked him out in 1972. Brodsky resettled in the U.S., where he went on to win the Nobel Prize for Literature and later became the U.S. poet laureate. But Brodsky never lost his gloom. Before his death in 1996, the great now-Russian American poet warned of more scary things outside.

    BRODSKY: What we used to regard as civilization can easily go down the drain very soon very fast for all sorts of reasons.

    [i think the virus they are referring to is smallpox, Moscow 1960s… a traveler from India brought it back in 1959 after it was eradicated in the 30s… ]

  8. Paul in Boston asks a good question. These instances of FBI misconduct are nauseating. So, also, was IRS misconduct, and the targeting of conservatives/Republicans by other agencies in the run-up to the 2012 election. Are our federal agencies stuffed with little Berias, independently doing their part to destroy the conservative movement, or is this coordinated from higher up? Trump says he has the opportunity to destroy the Deep State. I hope he does, and I hope he will.

  9. Artfldgr:

    Actually, some ballet teachers and directors are pretty darn nasty and dictatorial. Not in Beria’s league, of course.

  10. Paul in Boston:

    That’s why a lot of people call it “Obamagate.”

    But I doubt that a smoking gun exists. – unless you consider the Rice CYA email to be a smoking gun. It’s a hint, that’s all, as is that Strzok reference to keeping O informed.

  11. I guess that I have a couple more questions to ask.

    How many more people are languishing in federal prison from “procedures” like this?

    Will we ever know the answer to the previous question?

    KRB

  12. I love to think that the parallels will extend themselves to the same vanishing point that Beria had. His cohorts finally showed him the man, Beria.

    “Beria was executed separately; he allegedly pleaded on his knees before collapsing to the floor wailing.He was shot through the forehead by General Pavel Batitsky. His final moments bore great similarity to those of his own predecessor, NKVD Chief Nikolai Yezhov, who begged for his life before his execution in 1940.His body was cremated and the remains buried in a forest near Moscow.”

    After all,

    “Smert Špionam”

  13. The techniques employed by the FBI are commonly used against the Mafia, drug lords, and big time financial fraudsters. Many real thugs are quite good at covering their tracks and evading the law. So the FBI and DOJ prosecutors have used lesser crimes and threats against the small fish to get convictions of the big fish. The difference between going after real criminals and political opponents is that there is a real predicate for the investigation and prosecution of criminals. In this case there was a constructed predicate based on a phony dossier and some creative thinking by someone (Ben Rhodes, aspiring novelist?) in the administration. They (the intel community and FBI) were tasked with setting this in motion. They started by infiltrating the campaign and trying to lure selected campaign staffers (Carter Page and George Papadopoulos) into appearances of Russian sympathies/collusion. The overriding narrative that Trump was a Russian asset was the supposed predicate. (Their alibi: We couldn’t not look into this possibility.) With that in mind, the spooks, FBI, and MSM set out to frame the whole administration as treasonous. And Mueller’s SCO tried very hard to make it come true.

    A plot like that would be rejected by a publisher as too improbable.

  14. the NKVD had Beria
    The Gestapo had Mueller
    and the Stasi had Wolf
    I think our Mueller followed his landsman Mueller

  15. It’s a partisan Dem deep state, all the way down. You know some good Dems? Good folk who are Dems? Yet don’t they hate Trump with no good reason, are they really good?

    I’m so sick and disgusted and angry at the US intel alphabet:
    FBI, CIA, NSA; as well as Google (owned by Alphabet) and the Dem media.

    Sick and tired, and sick and tired of being sick and tired.

    Why aren’t more Americans more upset? Don’t want to know… especially the college educated indoctrinated grads.

    And knowing it won’t be punished, so it will continue, is so frustrating. Makes me feel so bad.
    So small.
    So impotent.

    So very very tired.
    (Tho typing this in a pseudo-literate way is a bit energizing — neo-comments to fight Dem induced malfeasance and malaise. )

  16. “Are our federal agencies stuffed with little Berias, independently doing their part to destroy the conservative movement, or is this coordinated from higher up?” Kate

    Both. That there have been zero whistleblowers, reveals just how deep the rot goes… all the way to the bottom.

    But the #1 priority for any bureaucrat is CYA. That applies however highly placed the individual. In fact, since political ‘agility’ is of paramount importance the higher up the ladder, none of the people at the top do anything that they’re not confident of approval from the top.

    “A fish rots from the head” and you can bet your last dollar that Obama knew what was going on. You can also bet that he made sure that he always had plausible deniability.

    “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”

    Like his later mentor Bill Ayers, Obama is “guilty as hell, free as a bird” and laughing all the way to the bank.

  17. some ballet teachers and directors are pretty darn nasty and dictatorial.

    I think the media doesnt help either… they always paint them like some puritanical gate keepers beating young girls into some shape and heartless about it…

  18. Artfldgr:

    Ah, but my data didn’t come from media. It came from bitter experience. Some of them way back when – and I’m talking WAY back when – were very tough cookies. Loud, too, in many cases. They taught through fear.

    Not all of them, of course. Probably not even most. But a lot of them, particularly the old school Europeans and Eastern Europeans.

    This lady, for example. Oh, my goodness! You could hear her voice a block away in the middle of busy Manhattan, despite the traffic. I had never read her obituary before, and note that it says this:

    As a teacher, she was known for her demanding and exacting teaching method and relentless discipline. She was wont to say that “There is no secret method … only work, work, work. And passion … inner passion.”…

    Mme. Pereyaslavec was perceived as a teacher with high expectations, a strict disciplinarian, and as a source of inspiration.

    Note it’s said two times: “relentless discipline” and then “strict discipllinarian.” You can say that again.

    I’vw long meant to write a post about her.

  19. Artfldgr:

    Found! Mme. Pereyaslavec in a more gentle, quiet moment (I kid you not):

  20. Neo… is there a name for the baton, or cane they slam the ground with?
    I always imagined that they were so nasty and bitter because age took away what they loved and they had to work with the young who had everything they wanted..

    on another note, “Smert Špionam” is not Russian… 😉

    and Smersh [?????] was real…despite being in Bond movies.

    It eventually was reabsorbed into the MGB (not KGB which came later): the name of the Soviet state security apparatus dealing with internal and external security issues: secret police duties, foreign and domestic intelligence and counterintelligence, etc from 1946 to 1953

    Beria wasnt the tool… Stalin is who uses state apparatus

    Leningrad affair: a series of criminal cases fabricated in the late 1940s–early 1950s by Joseph Stalin in order to accuse a number of prominent politicians and members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of treason and intention to create an anti-Soviet organisation based in Leningra

    Mingrelian affair: a series of criminal cases fabricated in 1951 and 1952 in order to accuse several members of the Georgian SSR Communist Party of Mingrelian extraction of secession and collaboration with the Western powers

  21. “Whiplash” (2014) is an award-winning film about an abusive, dictatorial jazz teacher in a conservatory and his effect on a talented student.
    ____________________________________

    If you deliberately sabotage my band, I will gut you like a pig. Oh, my dear God. Are you one of those single tear people?

    (SHOUTING) You are a worthless pansy ass who is now weeping and slobbering all over my drum set like a nine-year-old girl.

    “Whiplash TRAILER 1 (2014)” @ 0:50
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d_jQycdQGo

    ____________________________________

    It’s damn intense and quite a compelling film experience. I recommend it.

    However, I have read music instructors shake their heads as to its authenticity. Such a teacher, at least these days, would have lost his job, if not brought lawsuits down upon the conservatory.

    I’d be curious to know.

  22. It’s really cool that most YouTubes now have subtitles plus transcripts you can access from the “…” popup control on the right of the title bar below the video. Which is how I got the text for the above quote.

    Behold the power of voice recognition! It’s gotten better and better to the point where this is possible. Ten years ago voice recognition required being trained to an individual voice and even then it wasn’t that reliable.

    I’m now reading a standard college text (“Artificial Intelligence” 3rd Edition, by Russell & Norvig) and artificial intelligence is coming along faster than I realized. I’m worried more about AI than pandemics. We’d better be paying attention. AI could really kill us off in the not too distant future.

  23. In case you were hoping to sleep well tonight, here’s Jay Tuck to tuck you in with his TedX talk, “Artificial Intelligence: it will kill us.”
    _______________________________________________

    We normally tend to think of software as stuff that we created and that we wrote, and the machines do what we tell them to do, and we own it. This is no longer true.

    [AI software] rewrites itself at speeds that we can hardly comprehend, and people who write it know that you can’t take it apart again and figure out what it has done. {AI] writes independently, autonomously; it develops its own way of thinking, and there are dangers associated with that.

    A lot of people ask, “When is it going to happen? When is artificial intelligence going to be smarter than us people?”

    Some people say 50 years.
    Some say 30 years.
    Some say five years.

    I say it already has surpassed us in many areas of our society.

    “Artificial Intelligence: it will kill us | Jay Tuck | TEDxHamburgSalon”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrNs0M77Pd4

  24. The Obama administration and its confederates:
    Perfidy, Inc.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-attorney-accuses-mueller-lie-defraud-gregg-jarrett

    Key graf (of many):
    ‘ “That is when I knew [Mueller] had lied to me in our original meeting (June 16, 2017) and every meeting thereafter. Robert Mueller —‘D.C.’s great man’ — completely and deliberately misled us in order to set up a perjury/false statement trap for POTUS. It was a monstrous lie and scheme to defraud.” ‘

  25. Before general intelligence AI does much, there will be plenty of machine learning specific AI.

    Like, as a near certain future, an AI voice imitator that recreate somebody or somebodies voice, in a way that cannot be detected. So an imaginary Trump-Putin “conversation” will be possible to be constructed. With the conversation saying whatever the programmer/ controllers/ initiators want it to say.

    Most folk don’t want real AI alt-people. They want slaves personal assistants able and willing to use the best technology to achieve the goals of the people.

    Google’s search engine is one such AI servant. Most tech is moving towards that.

    It would be good to be designing AI tools to watch, record, and be ready to accurately report on all top gov’t Intelligence folk.

    I’m kind of in favor of AI watchers over those people who have the power to watch over other people. Almost all gov’t bureaucrats can be replaced by AI report generators and menu choice selections.

    I would actually like to see more AI in government, with more AI testing of other AI outputs.

  26. Neo, I’m guessing that 95+ percent of the people who frequent this blog know who Beria was. No need to explain. We’re a sharp crew out here in the hinterlands. Don’t you know?

  27. In another thread, neo, I posted a link to a 16m reading of UnderCoverHuber’s Twitter thread.

    Kate asks how many have been similarly treated and tossed in Federal prison? Flynn’s lawyer Sidney Powell avers 5 to 10% in an interview back about two weeks ago, probably on Fox Business – but definitely posted up at YouTube. It struck me hard and as a difficult to accept truth, but I felt as if a water balloon hit me and was quite angry.

    Finally, Quinn ends her K T McFarland book review with a quote, echoing my sentiments many times:

    “One concluding statement she [K T] made:

    ‘If anything, I am now more convinced than ever that what we are experiencing now is not just a group of Democrats, Never-Trumpers, and the liberal media who have made common cause in their efforts to get rid of Trump. It is an entrenched self-perpetuating Washington Establishment locked into a battle with the American people over who is sovereign. Is it the American electorate who voted for populism and nationalism with Donald Trump as their flagbearer? Or does the ultimate power rest in the hands of the entrenched Administrative State and the governing class who are using the system to get rid of Trump and everything he stands for?’

    “It is time, against at all levels of government, for us to take back our country!”

    Back in the first decade of this century, I read law books from Phillip Hamburger at Columbia law and F H Buckley (who was Canadian) at George Mason University law. The question in one title was “Is the Administrative State Unconstitutional?” The answer, Yes.

    I stoped reading these sorts of things in 2012, when Obama was re-elected. What’s the use? On occasion, I read pieces on what to do about this at sites like libertyandLaw.org, and the answer: we don’t know?

    Well. We still don’t know. Yet we need some serious answers soon or all is lost.

    Well, I’m still all in for civil war. But if Trump gets a Special Counsel this summer, and if masses rise in million man protest in DC, like with the Tea Party, and if people are righteously angry, focused, and burning our enemies in effigy – then there will be some hope for the future.

  28. huxley on May 26, 2020 at 11:30 pm said:
    It’s really cool that most YouTubes now have subtitles plus transcripts you can access from the “…” popup control on the right of the title bar below the video. Which is how I got the text for the above quote.
    * * *
    Why doesn’t somebody tell us these things!
    Guessing the purpose of all the icons on a web page can be a time-consuming experience, and just when you think you know what they do, somebody changes them.

    Thanks for the tip — I’m now “reading” Gorka’s interview with Solomon and Carter.

  29. Why doesn’t somebody tell us these things!

    AesopFan: I live to serve!

    I was hoping some, maybe even neo, would pick up on that as a handy household hint in the internet age.

    I’m looking forward to the AI which can turn a YouTube into a full transcript that calls out the different speakers so you can just read the bloody thing like you want to.

  30. Tom Grey:

    AI will make the issue of recording FBI interviews moot. They will be able to convincingly fabricate them.

  31. neo on May 27, 2020 at 4:08 pm said:
    Tom Grey:

    AI will make the issue of recording FBI interviews moot. They will be able to convincingly fabricate them.
    * * *
    That sounds so cynical; too bad the FIBs have made it a believable statement.

  32. I realize I’m hopelessly naive but I still can’t believe that beyond a handful of intrepid few, the mainstream press has zero interest in this story. There is a kneejerk reaction to sweep this under the rug and make the story disappear. Even if 90-95% of Washington reporters lean left, are there not at least a handful with a shred of decency to get to the bottom of this? How do they sleep at night?
    I suppose any tactics are ok that help protect and cover for Dear Leader.

  33. “Have you no shred of decency?” they asked Senator McCarthy.
    That rule only applies to Republicans.

    Short step from Beria to Solzhenitsyn.

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?.. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” — Solzhenitysn

    NOTE to Neo: the blog police are once again censoring the full quote.

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