In case you’re wondering in what manner the Obama administration spied on Trump…
… Jasper Fakkert is pleased to be of service. He lists six ways:
1. FISA Warrant: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page was targeted with a FISA warrant by the FBI in October 2016. The warrant was subsequently renewed three times for 90-day periods. Other members of the Trump campaign might have had FISA warrants on them, as well.
2. Unmasking: Hundreds of so-called unmasking requests were made for the identities of members of the Trump campaign in intelligence reports…
3. Undercover Informant: The FBI used Stefan Halper, an undercover agent, to infiltrate the Trump campaign. He contacted Trump campaign associates Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. Halper has ties to the CIA, as well as MI6.
4. National Security Letters: The use of national security letters to target the Trump campaign was first revealed by officials to The New York Times in a May 16, 2018, article. National security letters allow the FBI to secretly subpoena customer records from banks, phone companies, internet service providers, and others.
5. Foreign Intelligence: British intelligence agency GCHQ provided officials within the CIA with information on the Trump campaign as early as late 2015…
6. Reverse Targeting: Brennan admitted in an Aug. 17, 2018, interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that the CIA had obtained the communications of Americans associated with the Trump campaign through what appears to have been the use of reverse targeting. “We call it incidental collection in terms of CIA’s foreign intelligence collection authorities,” Brennan said.
Fakkert adds that no evidence was ever found of the supposed crimes that supposedly warranted the spying. It’s not just that no evidence was found after a thorough investigation, but none appears to have been found prior to the investigation in order to justify it; the evidence had to be manufactured in various ways, either by attempts at entrapment or by sheer imaginative efforts.
Now, that does not mean that we know everything. It is certainly possible that at some point we’ll learn—from the fuller Mueller report, from some IG report, from a report that Barr will end up issuing—that there was not only some evidence, but enough evidence that it would have fully justified the enormous steps that were taken by the opposition to spy on a candidate for the presidency.
But so far, nada. And if it continues that way, it is more than disturbing. It is exceedingly, tremendously disturbing—an outrage.
It seems to me that if there were sufficient evidence of a crime or crimes to justify the surveillance, we would have heard about it long ago, or at the very least, Mueller would have found it.
They simply thought they could do it and get away with it because Hillary was going to be elected and these outrages would never become known.
Horowitz report is coming and boy is he pissed. He had to wait for Mueller.
Once the criminal prosecutions yield guilty verdicts, I hope that all those who were literally beggared by the legal fees resulting from their being unjustly pursued by these evil Obama administration minions file civil suits to be made whole, with additional penalties for their pain and suffering.
Like the tree falling without someone nearby to hear it, the dinosaur media will not report this. Start talking to people about and watch their eyes glaze over. Most just don’t care.
I fear a hard coup d’etat attempt. These traitorous conspirators are capable of murder.
What Kate said. There is no possible way that damaging evidence against Trump establishing a basis for the spying that followed would *not* have been leaked, given the media environment that exists today and underhanded pieces of sh*t like Schiff in powerful positions in Congress.
One way or another – a reckoning is coming down the road.
Much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments etc. – but nevertheless it’s coming.
Maybe we should all invest in orange prison outfits.
Though I would consider it well deserved for a bunch of Democrats and their minions to do some runway walks in orange jumpsuits, I don’t imagine it will happen.
However, I think Barr and team can raise a stink which will linger into the 2020 election. I’ll settle for that.
A real investigation of a presidential candidate during an election in the U.S. would start with clear and compelling proof of wrong doing. The investigation would be all about filling in the details. And such an investigation should be done in the strictest secrecy meaning no leaks to the press. The staff would be of the highest caliber, and would be as non-partisan as humanly possible. The resulting charges would be significant and consequential.
A partisan hack job would launch the investigation on the slimmest of premises, and any and all embarrassing information generated would be immediately leaked to a compliant press. The staff would be unprofessional and highly partisan. The resulting charges would consist predominately of process crimes, people charged with obstruction or lying to the FBI over trivial issues.
Which investigation did we get?
One thing that jumped out at me from Barr’s testimony was the word “predicate”. Now it may be that I am ignorant, a very strong possibility, but the only context I can recall in which the term appears is in the RICO statute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
If, emphasis if, there was a wide spread seditious conspiracy then the only way DOJ could possibly proceed, due to resource constraints, is to cast a wide net with RICO.
parker…It saddens me greatly that I agree with your assessment here.
We will see blood in the streets.
Barr? President Trump? Another “baseball field” mass shooting?
I pray that I am wrong.
Sure, there was an adequate predicate: Carter Page, a Trump campaign volunteer advisor, knows a guy who knows a guy who hangs around with Russians who we’ve heard are connected to Russian intelligence agencies,
Sounds good enough to me!
Notice that Comey is already preparing for the investigation — he don’t know nothin’!
I knew Stefan Halper was a mole and a spy on the Trump campaign, and that he was connected to the CIA. I did not know he was connected to MI6. Chris Steele had been employed by MI6 but had supposedly retired years earlier.
Here’s a not terribly original nor deep idea. It is a huge deal for political opponents within a country to spy on each other illegally. On the other hand it is generally accepted practice for the intelligence agency of one nation to spy on the leaders of other nations, even for little cause.
But what if intelligence on one nation by another is “laundered” back across the border into the source country for political purposes?
Here is a well known example printed in Spiegel.
Suppose a German pol wanted to take down Merkel and had a few friends in the NSA or friends who had access to the NSA database. Isn’t that a very clean way to spy?
The weird thing is that the Obama admin. seems to have used a shotgun approach including smart and stupid tactics.
Perhaps they were hoping that Chris Steele still had strong ties to MI6 and access to solid intel. Instead the joker just copied a bunch of crap from the internet and a couple Russians.
The “intelligence” investigation was what cops call “bootstrapping.” They initiated the investigation ostensibly because they suspected the Trump campaign was conspiring with Putin to steal the election. This was nothing but a pretext for the Obama administration to use the CIA and FBI to fish for any information that could ruin Trump’s campaign and/or destroy his presidency. I seriously doubt any of those people ever thought there had been Trump collusion with the Russians. That was merely the excuse used to bring the full weight of the US intelligence apparatus in service to a political operation.
no wayis anyone ever going to jail least of all any democrat. remember the beast controls the judicial system, it will never happen,, ever
In support of Jeff’s comments on “bootstrapping.”
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/04/11/fbi_mans_testimony_points_to_significant_wrongdoing_beyond_spying.html
Trump was the target of illegal spying by Obama’s crooked FBI. Obama is guilty. Few want that truth to be true (I don’t), but given that it IS true, I’d rather we find out the details sooner.
Yet so many at the top of so many agencies don’t want to admit that their own small crimes were part of such a huge almost coup, and like a mafia, silence and “forgetting” is their main protection.
There will be a lot of “remembering” when indictments start flowing, but it will be slow until then. Craig getting indicted will be very promising.
Crap: Double
New terms to keep an eye out for.
Artful malapropism
Willful concealment
Feigned ignorance.
And as many metaphors for “domestic spying” as you can shake a “shopped” FICA “judge” at.
What is quite amazing is what this “bootstrapped” two-year proctological-level witch-hunt DID PROVE:
a)Trump is not only not compromised, but his administration actually is as CLEAN as Obama claimed that his was!
b) Despite his fatuous claims to the country, Obama’s administration was DIRTY: full of lies, criminality, and bad actors at all levels, all supported by an equally corrupt media!
It’ almost seems like the Deep State Leviathan – including the media— has changed its focus from bringing down Trump to protecting the “scandal-free” legacy of the administration of “no-drama” Obama.
At all costs.
Has anyone seen this about Anderson? I seem to have missed it when it first came out. There isn’t anything much not known from other people, except high-lighting the unusual nature of the FISA on Page.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-testimony-by-fbi-lawyer-trisha-anderson-reveals-extensive-role-in-trump-clinton-investigations_2806982.html
As we all know by now, “intent” is not part of the law, and besides, what kind of “intent” are they talking about? She certainly intended to break the laws about classified information.
So what happened to all the people here over the years that thought Ymar was smoking crack and being crazy when bringing up the subject of traitors in the US government all those years ago?
“Halper has ties to the CIA, as well as MI6.”
I’ve seen stories that have Stefan Halper as working with Italy and a FBI asset.
While there have been reports that nobody can find him, Halper has been in Italy.
Most interesting will be sanctions imposed on those who duped the FISA judges. For the rule of law this HAS to occur.
If Roberts was in on the con he will resign.
We have no doupts about Obama and his motives just like with the M.S. Media just about all of them are Democratic Voters and supporters not just the NYT’s and CNN it dont take a Rocket Scientists to figure that out