A reminder of how much the climate has changed in the past
It’s really odd that this article was published in The New Yorker, because although it’s not about the current AGW climate change controversy it certainly dwells on the wild swings that have occurred to earth’s climate in the past.
Worth reading.
Well if you read it you’ll find that white people caused global warming back then, too, by depopulating the new world which led to reforestation and less fires, etc. etc. I’m amazed they didn’t dig up a quote from one of Trump’s ancestors promoting depopulation of the new world’s natives and something about a wall.
Fascinating article except of course for the obligatory and absurd reference to AGW.
Also THE climate change of all times. Evidence of the actual day of the great asteroid strike (h/t Instapundit):
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article228686734.html?fbclid=IwAR2fPYeRS0Iv7BRI1QbzhBRRlCn5Lcm2x6DGOeXmh1cTZ–fegncu-Eg-mc
As this article is a review of a book about the Little Ice Age, I thought it appropriate to bring up another book on the topic, that Brian Fagan wrote: The Little Ice Age: How Climate Made History 1300-1850.
“I’m amazed they didn’t dig up a quote from one of Trump’s ancestors promoting depopulation of the new world’s natives and something about a wall.”
actually its more likely the ancestors of AOC who took a break from torturing Spanish Jews so they could exterminate a continent.
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Also THE climate change of all times. Evidence of the actual day of the great asteroid strike (h/t Instapundit)
Coincidentally, the Kansas City Star article you linked to also links to a recent article The New Yorker had on the subject. The Kansas City Star article also dedicates a substantial space to discussing The New Yorker article.
Don’t know why I am pushing The New Yorker after the hit job it did on Victor Davis Hanson. 🙂
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died
Another thread here that has a link to Milan Kundera in one of the comments, mentions that one way to obscure the truth is to create confusion–to make finding the truth so hard that most people give up on trying–is to just put several competing versions of the truth out there, and that is what has happened with the “climate change”/”global warming” controversy.
There are all sorts of supposed “scientific truths” about “global warming”/”climate change” put out by various agencies–the UN, NASA, various Universities, by advocates, and experts–which come to different conclusions about the existence, extent, the seriousness, and whether and how much human remediation efforts can effect “global warming,” presuming that such a thing–as defined by it’s advocates–even exists.
Meanwhile, to add to the confusion, evidence has also been accumulating that many of these supposedly “scientific” estimates, charts, and supposedly “scientific conclusions”–yeah, right, “the science is settled,” all right–have been “cooked” by these scientists/experts–advocates for the existence of climate change as an existential crisis all–to prove what they want them to prove.
So, among all of this confusion, among all of these various competing “narratives” and supposed “truths,” and “realities,” how can you pick which one is the correct one or, at least, as close to correct as possible?
Is “global warming” real?
Is it a natural phenomenon, or is it something that is caused or exacerbated to any significant degree by human activities?
If it is caused by human activities, are it’s extent and effects so bad that we need to try to ameliorate or even eliminate them?
If we decide we want to do this, is there even any way–no matter how radical and all encompassing the proposed solutions might be–that we can have an appreciable effect on these aspects of our global climate in a reasonable time frame–say a generation or two?
How to find the truth in the middle of this blizzard of different supposed facts, conclusions, and proposals?
Or, do we just give up, and accept the assurance of those advocating for radical solutions to climate change that “the science is settled.”
avi:
Sephardic Jewish migration to Puerto Rico began in the 15th century, although the conversos did not openly practice Judaism while still under Spanish control. Still, it was better than being in the heart of Spain at the time. So it is entirely possible that DNA studies would show numerous Puerto Rican families have some Jewish ancestry.
I thought you were linking to the Dinosaur article which is terrific.
“Sephardic Jewish migration to Puerto Rico began in the 15th century,”
I think you mean the 16th
Late 15th century, Avi, beginning with Columbus’s second voyage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Puerto_Rico
Although of course Wikipedia has been known to be in error.
Well, to be fair, it began around the last eight years or so of the 15th.
The exception of the environmental wackos aside, it’s not about the climate. It’s about using bogus claims about the climate to gain power.
No amount of factual rebuttal can change the minds of those for whom climate change is a central dogma of their belief system.
Nor can any amount of factual rebuttal force those using bogus claims about the climate to gain power to rescind those claims.
When forced to abandon that claim, they will simply invent another claim that can be used to gain more power.
So go ahead, ‘prove’ that “global cooling” isn’t a serious threat caused by man…
“Is “global warming” real?”
For me, the answer is arrived at by first looking at who’s tooting that particular horn and then, necessarily, drawing the opposite conclusion.
To be sure, it helps when there are other scientists who have done research and believe that the science of AGW is screwy, or at least not all it’s cracked up to be.
(This doesn’t mean that one should neglect the environment or environmental issues.)
Geoffrey Britain–I agree that a whole series of supposed end of the world as we know it, existential threats that Lefties have ginned up starting, say, in the 1970s–we were going to freeze to death due to a coming new Ice Age, then, we were all going to die due to over-population, then die due to lack of food and, most recently, die due to global warming–have all, in actuality, just been vehicles that they were hoping to use to scare people and governments into giving the “experts,” organizations, and “advocates” involved in touting each one of these supposedly immanent existential threats attain more and more power and control over everyone, their lives, and money as well.
Snow on Pine on April 2, 2019 at 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm said:
Another thread here that has a link to Milan Kundera in one of the comments,
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Celebrating his birthday yesterday. Glad you got a chance to read the article; it was fascinating, and chilling.
AesopFan on April 2, 2019 at 1:22 am at 1:22 am said:
ICYMI via American Digest
https://quillette.com/2019/03/31/historical-amnesia-and-kunderas-resistance/
“Milan Kundera is 90-years old on April 1, 2019 and his central subject—The Power of Forgetting, or historical amnesia—could not be more relevant.”
“At first, there were panics and uprisings, food riots and rebellions, and a spike in witch trials—because, in a pre-scientific world, the idea that witches were responsible for failing harvests made as much sense as any other explanation.” – New Yorker
Kind of like the way “Trump did it” explains everything today.
“The egg and the other remains suggested that dinosaurs and major reptiles were probably not staggering into extinction on that fateful day.” – New Yorker
This is taking a swipe at another paleontologist whose career has been devoted to examining the effects of long-term volcanic explosions as a factor in causing die-off after a lenghty period of worsening environmental / ecological conditions.
I personally don’t see why they have to be mutually exclusive theories.
John Barnes Daybreak trilogy is all about the eco crazies that view the destruction of humanity as a feature in order to protect gaia.
It was a Mistake, trying to Co-opt History/Historians.
I’d been noticing for a couple-few years that there seemed to be a, well, noticeable incidence of hard-nosed, bare-knuckled history-pieces coming across the wire.
Then a few months ago an author mockingly alluded to Jesus Christ as a known myth, implying that something new had come up, putting the last nail in the coffin. Cross. Whatever.
That was not how I remembered the resolution of the question. Jumped on Google, brought up Wikipedia’s Historical Jesus entry … and got an ear-full on the “scholarly consensus” … which obviously supercedes the 97% Climate Consensus.
The historical Little Ice Age (and preceding Medieval Warm Epoch) had been smoothed-out, in the infamous Hockey Stick analysis. Before modern technology, climate, you see, had been straight & level – the handle of the hockey stick. With the Industrial Revolution and coal, then the Internal Combustion Engine and petroleum, the climate is steadily marching for meltdown – the (up) angled blade or head of the stick.
Historians have not taken this ‘abuse’ laying down. The New Yorker is far from alone, in carrying a variant account of this period. And beware, because the previous Warm Epoch was considerably more important, historically. There are popular books now expressly about the Little Ice Age (formerly pretty ‘specialized’ stuff), and a new one in the reviews.
How did this heightened interest in a seeming peripheral matter come about? I mean, what is a weather-trend to Historians, when it is competing in the same period with the illustrious Renaissance? Well, it’s not nice to fool Mother Nature, and activists are well advised to steer_clear of rewriting History.
Nothing in the New Yorker is worth reading.
Nothing.
An impact equal to 1 billion atomic bombs, and yet the Earth survived, and has even thrived.
First, it makes you wonder about all those claims That the U.S. and Russia have enough nuclear bombs to destroy the Earth several times over.
Then, makes you wonder how a 1 or 2 degree change in temperature over 100 years will destroy the planet.
Really is a good article though.
Old news if your edumacated…
which i guess is the point of the game…
play the ignorant…
Ted Clayton on April 2, 2019 at 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm said:
How did this heightened interest in a seeming peripheral matter come about?
Modern scientific naturalism was a philosophical movement arising out of the l9th century which viewed man within nature as opposed to his being against nature. Previous materialism was regarded as erroneous [but not completely as a later form of it became a synonym for communism]
of course, the ghost called Humanism rears its head…
Humanists view their philosophy as the philosophy enabling man to achieve happiness, integration of personality, the fulfillment of one’s potential as well as the happiness of mankind. “The watchword of Humanism is happiness for all humanity in this existence as contrasted with salvation for the individual soul in a future existence . . . .” The good life for the individual is attained by “harmoniously combining personal satisfaction and continuous self-development with significant work and other activities that contribute to the welfare of the community.”
and that led to the idiocy and war of the ignorants, among other things in Dialectical Materialism
Dialectical materialism, existing in one form or another, is the official philosophy of the Soviet Union, China, and many satellite countries. The fathers of dialectical materialism are Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Marx is a paradoxical person who lived in near poverty at times and practiced financial parasitism on Engels who inherited considerable wealth. Indebted to Engels, Marx spoke of his literary works as “our theory.”
unlucky for everyone, it was also a romantic period…
under that, even the most henious things could be happily accomplished with the right mix of feelings, and symbology, real or otherwise
Marx reversed the dialectic. The world is not idea or Spirit as in Hegel, but matter. Marx’s view of matter is not greatly important. The world is accepted as real in a common sense realism sense. What takes place in the world and how it takes place is much more important. This is why dialectical materialism is sometimes called historical materialism. This means simply that the dialectic is applied to history. History is interpreted as a struggle from one part (thesis) of the dialectic to the opposite (antithesis) to the synthesis, and over again.
The stage is now set… once again, the same people, and politics is at the core of the question… the PROGRESSIVES = PROmote reGRESSIVE
while Russia was playing with Communism. England was dabbling in the birth of its Fabians. The United States birthed its progressive era and the action starting with Theodore Roosevelt
Now comes some of the fun stuff people dont know (or pretend they dont or something)…
Boone and Crockett Club
all good stuff for the most part… But the key here was the names of who were together on it, a truly amazing list of wealthy people, artists, educated, etc.. people like Deering, Pinchot is known for reforming the management and development of forests in the United States and for advocating the conservation of the nation’s reserves by planned use and renewal,
one name to look out for is
and you had the settlement movement, that some above, and others were a part of.. like their children..
lots of society bigs met there and thats where these ideas collided… especially among the children of people like the Harrimens and other “Families” who kind of got together with the idea, lets destroy the family… among other things eventually like womens shelters and immigrant programs, and on and on.
The most famous settlement house in the United States is Chicago’s Hull House, founded by Jane Addams and Ellen Gates Starr in 1889
[in many ways the modern movement always had lesbians in its foundation, for unlike the happy housewives, they had no source of income in male mates… so the attitude that is now dominant is theirs, not of the ladies who are now taught that that stuff they liked was really a trick (holding doors open is sexist and not holding them is sexist]
Madison Grant is also interesting.. because all the elements are here for the horrors and attempts at marx, and others through last century. a YALE man and Columbia man… an American lawyer, writer, and zoologist known primarily for his work as a eugenicist and conservationist. As a eugenicist, Grant was responsible for one of the most notorious works of scientific racism, and played an active role in crafting strong immigration restriction and anti-miscegenation laws in the United States.
he inspired many people… In a way, the marx stuff is now moving to its next incarnations, which was to improve the human race…
Similar ideas were proposed by Gustav Kossinna in Germany. Grant promoted the idea of the “Nordic race”, a loosely defined biological-cultural grouping rooted in Scandinavia, as the key social group responsible for human development; thus the subtitle of the book was The racial basis of European history. As an avid eugenicist, Grant further advocated the separation, quarantine, and eventual collapse of “undesirable” traits and “worthless race types” from the human gene pool and the promotion, spread, and eventual restoration of desirable traits and “worthwhile race types” conducive to Nordic society
when you read this next passage, note how well birth control, and all that serves the purpose that sterilization could not, for it was not supportable after more overt actions a few years after these kinds of popular discussions
and he was good friends with the Roosevelt’s! and all those wealthy people who were so willing to pony up money to make all this a reality project..
thats the birth of our environmentalism…
not much before that…
but all the pieces of things flopping around melding
till you get marx, racism, eugenics, war, social programs, the wealthy with the poor etc…
🙂
did i mention that his colleague was Lothrop Stoddard?? knowing about this would make sense of today given how we are living in the past
The New Yorker article about the dinosaurs — linked above in Gringo’s comment at 1:57 p.m. — is amazing and positively worth reading. It’s vivid, scientifically mind-boggling and reminiscent of the kind of long essays the New Yorker used to publish in the long gone pre-Tina Brown days, by John McPhee and others of his ilk. (Not that there were many of John McPhee’s ilk, but the few that were wrote for the New Yorker.) Anyway, as they say, read the whole thing.
It is funny that what appear to be much more real, documented, and potentially existential TEOTWAWKI threats are essentially being ignored.
The one that seems most likely to occur is an Electromagnetic Pulse (an EMP)—one either naturally occurring, or man-made**—which has the potential to degrade or destroy–in a couple of seconds, minutes, or hours–each and every electronic foundation of our increasingly technological, interdependent society that relies on transistors and computers to create, manufacture, run, oversee, schedule, track, switch, document, extract, direct, vend, pay for, transport, and communicate virtually everything.
I say EMP because there has been a very recent naturally caused EMP—the Solar Storm of 1859, the Carrington Event—when a very strong solar storm, a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), sent a wave of particles erupting from the sun that hit our magnetosphere, generating an Electromagnetic Pulse that lasted for a couple of days, and effected and damaged the few technological things that existed in that day and age on Earth that were vulnerable to EMP.
The telegraph was just getting started in 1859, and, according to many reports, telegraph systems went down, and amid all sorts of EMP caused atmospheric and auroral displays—very strong auroras being seen far closer to the Equator than usual, blood red skies, nighttime with daylight levels of light—telegraph keys and wires were arcing, telegraph poles threw sparks, chemically treated papers used in telegraphy were set on fire, and so much electromagnetic energy was in the air/induced in the equipment and wires, that some telegraph systems were able—a short while into the EMP attack—to transmit messages without being hooked up to the batteries that were their normal source of electricity.
More recently, according to reports, a strong CME just missed the Earth in 2012, and had the Earth been in a different position—one nine days further along its orbit—we would have been hit.
Unfortunately, our power grid, and most of our other vulnerable systems, are not currently protected against EMP.
Imagine what such a powerful natural CME, or enemy generated attack, creating an EMP that hit our magnetosphere, would do to us today.
Potentially all power systems and electric transformers wrecked, and not coming back any time soon.
Just so you understand, there are a just a few thousand of these gigantic transformers (and just a few hundred of the even larger, heavier, higher voltage models in service) here in the U.S.
These transformers weigh many tons, are awkward to move, transport, and site, there are very few spares and—to make things even worse—most of these transformers, other than the ones made here in the U.S. by GE, are manufactured overseas—by Siemens in Germany, Mitsubishi in Japan, ABB in Switzerland, Schneider Electric in France, and Jiangsu Huapeng Transformer in China, and would have to be delivered by sea.
Gone too would be computer regulated distribution systems for food, electricity, water, petroleum, natural gas, other products, and waste, all pacemakers fried—and those who have them dead, the Internet likely down, all computers fried, stock market down, banking, credit card systems, and ATMs not working, radio likely not working well or at all, many satellites destroyed, computer reliant manufacturing halted—and stores not getting deliveries of food or any thing else—gas station pumps not functional, ignition, and control systems used in most recent cars, aircraft, and sea craft fried, aircraft radar and control systems inoperative.
Moreover, all computers, other electronic equipment, spares, and chips not operating at the time of the EMP (and not encased in a Faraday cage) also destroyed because anything that can function as a wire, leading into something electronic, would conduct such electromagnetic energy from the atmosphere into the machine, and fry any computer chips inside it.
In an instant we would be reduced to having to survive using relatively primitive, 19th century horse and buggy technology.
** Congressional testimony on this subject estimated that the worst case, catastrophic effects of such an EMP—this one man-made—could conceivably result in the death of 90% of the U.S. population within a year of such a catastrophic event happening due to starvation, disease, violence, and societal breakdown.
Our population of 300 million plus—that primarily lives in cities, and is not used to growing or hunting its own food—reduced down to the 30 million people who could support and feed themselves in a much more primitive, rural economy.
** See https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HM/HM09/20171012/106467/HHRG-115-HM09-Wstate-PryP-20171012.pdf
** I note that, according to reports, many of our enemies—Russia, China, North Korea, and others have, or are working on developing an EMP weapon.
See also http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf .
That is why President Trump signed an Executive Order yesterday to initiate a defense against EMP.
In my view, too little and far too late—but you need to start somewhere.
P.S. –The time necessary to construct a transformer–weighing between 100 to 400 tons–can be from 6 months to a few years, depending on the availability of certain critical materials, and 85% of our transformers are manufactured overseas.
Jersey Fled on April 2, 2019 at 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm said:
An impact equal to 1 billion atomic bombs, and yet the Earth survived, and has even thrived.
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The catch is that 99.9999% of all plant and animals perished.
Mammals somehow made it through.
And cockroaches, of course.
Ted Clayton’s point is the one that’s interesting to me. What happened to the Medieval Warm Period? Plus, the article’s claim that the Little Ice Age was 2.0 deg C colder seems quite large compared to other things I’ve read which were in the range of 0.5 to 1.0 deg.
Did they use the warmest parts of the warm period as a baseline or reference for determining the ice age temperature drop? And the claim that human fatalities caused global cooling? I’d love to see an estimate calculation on that one.
Sorry, but why are we giving any credence to such balderdash? Why are we giving this notion of, warming, cooling, or changing any thought at all? Have we gone mad? Will future writers make up fables describing our nations idiocy? We are surely doomed, at least to be nitwits..
Yes! I went nuts for the dinosaur KT extinction article. It inspired to look up the Western Interior Seaway again, which has long fascinated me.
There was a vast shallow sea covering the area east of the Rockies to the middle of the US, from Canada to what is now the Gulf of Mexico, for much of the Cretaceous. As tectonic plates collided and that area was uplifted, the sea drained away. By the time the asteroid hit, North Dakota and Canada was all that was left of the might Western Interior Seaway.
That’s the sea mentioned in the article. You can see its map on page 40 of this PDF.
http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/30392blakey/ndx_blakey.pdf.html
But don’t stop there, flip the pages backward for a wonderful time-lapse view of Western Interior Seaway going back to the Jurassic.
…reminiscent of the kind of long essays the New Yorker used to publish in the long gone pre-Tina Brown days, by John McPhee and others of his ilk.
Mrs Whatsit: Ain’t that the truth! There were giants in those days. But it’s a joy to see the occasional return to form.
Where did all the water come from? If one does not understand the water cycle, one does not understand life on earth. Aim small, miss small.
There was a serious error in the article concerning the causes of the Little Ice Age and other cooling episodes within this historic period. It was not lesser solar radiance correlating with absence of solar spots, but the changes in solar magnetic field which shields the Earth from cosmic rays. When this field weakens, more galactic rays (charged particles, mainly protons) enter the atmosphere, producing vastly more secondary particles seeding the clouds and so increasing the Earth albedo. These changes in the cloud cover are much more powerful drivers of climate change than anything else. This is important to underscore now, when, by all estimates of solar physics, we enter a new phase of a spotless Sun and a weak solar magnetic field, very reminding the situation at the beginning of the Little Ice Age. It is quite possible that a great global cooling is ahead.
Since the Medieval Warm Period ended in the middle of 13 century, about 250 years before Europeans arrived to Americas, it is simply ridiculous to blame them for this climate change.
It seems more likely that we will get a fast, little ice age, than suffer much from global warming. Lots of volcanos, for one thing – including the Yellowstone “super volcano”.
“Climate Change” covers both colder and hotter, but man-made warming has been for a couple of decades the chief fear of eco-Alarmists.
Zharkova predicts a little ice age coming, due to no sunspots, no magnetic flux protection from cosmic rays. (As Sergey says). Tho whether there will be more clouds or less is not so clear; I thought less clouds. And less clouds means more heat leaves the Earth, so it gets cooler.
But more clouds might also mean more heat is reflected even before it gets to Earth, so it gets cooler. Reversing these gives two inverse reasons for it to get hotter.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Valentina_Zharkova
I believe in the “no sunspots” / no magnetic flux solar science prediction.
Zharkova says her climatologist contacts say this will mean global cooling. Starting soon – like in 2020.
My key takeaway — climate change damage is mostly floods and droughts. We should be spending more money to stop droughts and stop floods. The CA droughts and fires were more due to a failure to use tech and procedures we know about, than to “climate change”.
Similarly, the floods along the Missouri River are a failure to minimize floods — maybe because other eco aims took priority in water management actions.
The changes to agriculture should result in more money going to low-profit farms doing alternative crops (different from current stable temp “optimal”). So that, if the farming climate changes, it will be easier to adapt and still grow enough food.
The Day the Dinosaurs Died is indeed fantastic reading.
And civilized life dies if another huge asteroid hits.
because other eco aims took priority in water management actions.
This was an obvious problem in Britain several years ago. The flood control channels had been left uncleared because of a leftist “Return to nature” thing and they were heavily over grown. The result was massive flooding.
Tom Grey: Paintings of artists dated by Little Ice Age show a lot of clouds and no clear skies. As for heat balance, the greenhouse effect is estimated to add at most 1.5%, while variations in albedo are responsible for 25% change in heat balance.
Sergey’s point also bothered me.
The article said,
“… the cooling may have been caused by a decrease in sunspot activity, and therefore in solar radiation, …”
The word “radiation” could mean either EM radiance or alpha particle (& other) radiation. But EM radiance is known to be very constant and independent of sunspots or anything else, and particle radiation is known to be strongly correlated to sunspots.
So clearly it’s the latter, but it’s not clear the journalist understood that direct heating from the sun isn’t changing. It’s also not clear why the particle radiation would have any effect on temperature, though Sergey explains a likely connection very well.
I believe it’s true that none of the mechanisms regulating some of these albedo and greenhouse effects such as cloud cover, humidity, and snow cover are well understood; in spite of claims to the contrary.
Whoa Nellie.
Climate change heresy in the pages of the hard left New Yorker.
Whoda thunk it?
Here’s a page of thumbnails showing the Western Interior Seaway at different times. A bit quicker than downloading the pdf:
https://deeptimemaps.com/western-interior-seaway-thumbnails/
Artfldgr @ 6:15pm: Yes, later 19th C. Natural Philosophy … the foment of socialism-communism thought; early Environmentalism, Nationalism, the roots of modern Left & Right … all came on-stage as the near-century of European Romanticism, after James McPherson’s (1770’s) Ossinian Cycle collection (one of the greatest literary hoaxes of all time) ‘fired up’ John McCain’s Crazies … led by Napoleon Bonapart who carried the books in his saddlebags while tending to the destruction of his own country & half of Europe; and by Pres. Thomas Jefferson, who’s special instructions to Louis & Clark to seek Welch speaking Indians and to hang out with the Dakota Mandan (who looked Euro), reflected the fervor in which Americans were caught-up, too.
The roots of all this may go back into the later 16th C., but certainly by the mid 18th, with a veritable mania of coal & canal-digging, monstipherous belching engines; people were already tweaking, Waring Blender locked-on-high.
TommyJay @ 9:39pm: The nice thing about Medieval Warm Epoch-history is that the culture that later established the Hanseatic League was already ‘practicing Business’, as the North opened-up further-north, decade-by-decade. They started keeping track, and exploring more-northern ports and checking for break-up dates, early in the trend. Because Shipping! Not the kinds of Manuscripts that dreamy Parchment Hunters fantasize finding hidden away, but in the early-modern era these old bookkeeping & business records were available … often done by professional guilds under contract, they tended to be high-quality Codexes … though (seeming) BORing. My understanding is that the historical/liturature case for tracking the warming is quite good. Also south-flowing Eastern/Russian rivers, which were becoming key routes.
You always have to go with some kind of Baseline span, and boundary-assumptions, and they always introduce imperfections. Even in the purest Matrix Algebra, Fast Fourier Transform (basic tool, to search for – unknown! – cyclical phenomena, in even partial & noisy data sets), the edges & dimensional choices set the limits … even more so than the cruft & gaps!
Therefore, if it’s spin or propaganda that’s priority, it’s not only hairy-brain Science, but a cherry-picker’s low-hanging fruit!
Finally read the KT-boundary excavation article. Very cool. I kept waiting for the chemical analysis and iridium content results. While they didn’t mention the iridium specifically, they did mention a “geochemistry match” to other well know KT boundary sites. Looks solid.
Tom Grey on April 3, 2019 at 8:49 am at 8:49 am said:
The Day the Dinosaurs Died is indeed fantastic reading.
And civilized life dies if another huge asteroid hits.
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You are assuming that there currently exists civilized life.
Mike K on April 3, 2019 at 9:42 am at 9:42 am said:
because other eco aims took priority in water management actions.
This was an obvious problem in Britain several years ago. The flood control channels had been left uncleared because of a leftist “Return to nature” thing and they were heavily over grown. The result was massive flooding.
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Leftism destroys everything it touches.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1106203407394762753.html
John Hayward@Doc_0 20 days ago,
huxley on April 3, 2019 at 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm said:
Here’s a page of thumbnails showing the Western Interior Seaway at different times. A bit quicker than downloading the pdf:
https://deeptimemaps.com/western-interior-seaway-thumbnails/
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Very interesting – thanks.
Check out the animation link in the sidebar — way cool!