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  1. You just thought it was ugly up to now.
    Strap yourselves in, the ride’s fixing to get crazy.

  2. the cognitive dissonance will cause the left’s heads to turn backward and spew green vomit (as in The Exorcist)

  3. I’ll be interested in seeing if any libs have enough integrity to admit they were wrong and give it up – maybe even apologize to Trump.

    (That would be the day)

  4. I think Trump needs to declassify everything, including the FISA warrants.

    LLRs been blown. have After Hillary, we have no secrets from our enemies. Our agents in Iran and China have all been blown.

    FISA reform will be a big issue after the GOP takes back the House in 2021

  5. Glenn Greenwald is taking MSNBC, CNN, WAPO, etc to the woodshed on twitter. He freely admits that the rabid accusers of Trump will never apologize and will do even better as a result.

    I suspect he’s right and am gratified that their fanaticism won’t allow them to drop it. Next to the economy, unhinged, disproven accusations by the media, fruitless hearings by congressional democrats, along with antisemitism and support for infanticide are going to dissuade liberals from voting in 2020.

    When it comes to Trump, they can’t hide their ‘crazy’.

  6. Scott Adams just made another periscope podcast, and I am struck by one of his comments.

    To paraphrase: How can any TV program put Clapper or Brennan on to pontificate about any subject after they have been shown to be lying about RUSSIAN COLLUSION?

    Scott points out that any “news” program that now uses them is de facto revealing itself as an invalid program for news, and should be eliminated from your viewing in the future.

  7. Edward:

    Should be, but I doubt they will be.

    After all, many watchers of those channels believe Trump is guilty no matter what, so they are heroes to them or just minor figures who don’t matter. In fact, prior to Russiagate and their lies about that, Clapper had already lied to Congress about NSA surveillance (see this) and Brennan had this dubious background.

  8. I think a sizable majority of the American voting public are tired of this whole thing. The Democrats have been making wild claims for a long, long time, and now come up empty-handed. Mueller’s long, thorough and drawn-out investigation, conducted by blatantly anti-Tump personnel, leaves the Democrats with no basis for saying something was overlooked. If they nonetheless decide to keep pursuing Trump, it will only be on specious, if not fictitious, allegations, and will cost them dearly in 2020.

    As Minnesotans say to Virginians every time the latter ask for the return of their battle flag from Gettysburg, “There was a war. You lost. Get over it.”

  9. The Democrats of today are character assassins par excellence. For them, it is never over until they win, and they will do anything to accomplish this. I mean anything in the literal sense. The media and the academy are the wind at their backs – the Dems can always count on their help to distract, spin, obfuscate, and mischaracterize. Whatever the Dems say is magnified by the bandwagon effect of their media allies. We conservatives have an opponent who will stop at nothing, has extraordinarily powerful allies who have more money, and no hesitation about modifying the rules of free speech and expression to achieve their goals. If I am going to be frank in this post, I must admit that I am very, very concerned.

  10. Dersh is not crazy about Mueller’s statement. (Fox video).

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/03/24/dershowitz-this-is-a-very-very-bad-day-for-cnn-they-should-be-hanging-their-head-in-shame/

    Neither is Lara Logan.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/03/23/lara-logan-media-created-false-impression-mueller-indictments-russia-collusion/

    My boldface:

    …[Y]ou keep seeing high up featured prominently in many articles this line that six members of the Trump campaign have been indicted by the Mueller investigation, but you don’t read in the same space right there, nobody writes, although none of them were charged with conspiring with Russia, the central question of the Mueller investigation.

    That always comes way, way, way down further in the reporting, and that, to me, if you’re really trying to be objective, you can say six people were charged, but none of those charges had anything to do with conspiring with Russia. And then that doesn’t mislead the reader or the viewer because it’s very clear what people were charged with, and it’s not really to conspiracy or the central focus of the Mueller investigation. That, as a journalist, I find it disappointing that people will create one impression with their reporting, correct it later, and then claim that they’ve been honest and objective.

  11. But of course for the left it’s mere fodder for more innuendos and more investigations”

    Exactly! Every news story I saw or read today was ” yada, yada, yada, BUT!”

    Focusing on the BUT! This has seemed to have done nothing to cause them to all double-down.

    And, truth be told, we have seen this behavior time and time again. Every time the facts turn out to be different from what the left/news media claimed (e.g., George Bush’s military service, Duke Lacrosse Team, George Zimmerman, Smollett, etc.) they have always claimed “yea, but, it could have happened.”

    So, while I am disgusted by the reaction; I should learn to not be surprised by now.

  12. Sorry, but I still can’t believe that what just happened actually happened. What an extraordinary man Donald Trump is. I voted for him but I was prepared to be disappointed as I was neverHillary. And I’m wondering if the Dems didn’t screw up massively. If they had met with Trump after the election in a conciliatory manner they may have been able to co-opt him. But maybe this was a case of the tail wagging the dog. Maybe the deep state couldn’t let the Dems offer an olive branch. They had to mop up their illegal activities vis a vis Hillary. Do the FBI/DOJ egged the Dems on, assuring them that Trump was on the way out as they scrambled to clean up after themselves. Were the Democrats played? . . . or have I been spending too much time on the internet!

  13. And I’m wondering if the Dems didn’t screw up massively. If they had met with Trump after the election in a conciliatory manner they may have been able to co-opt him.

    They weren’t going to do that because street-level partisan Democrats are like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1IrRxoRkbQ

  14. My question is simply: now that this is preliminarily over with (although as Neo points out, not really, but just for the sake of argument), what specifically can President Trump get on with doing that he was hindered from because of this ongoing investigation?

  15. This comment was made on yesterday’s thread about McCarthy’s article.
    LeClerc on March 24, 2019 at 10:15 am at 10:15 am said:
    Neo: Here’s a brilliant indictment of the MSM.

    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million/
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    Brilliant is an understatement.
    Taibbi (of Rolling Stone) is scathing (I don’t know what he wrote himself over the last couple of years), and his list of the willing errors made by the partisan press is astounding (although not unfamiliar).

    The article is precisely summarized by this exchange at Legal Insurrection today:
    DouglasJBender | March 24, 2019 at 6:58 pm
    But how could practically all of the MSM have been so virulently wrong these past two years?
    tom_swift | March 24, 2019 at 9:30 pm
    Lots of practice.

  16. “That should be it, lights out on the accusations that have followed Trump like a shadow for his entire presidency.

    But of course for the left it’s mere fodder for more innuendos and more investigations.” – Neo

    Right on cue —
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/24/washington-post-no-collusion-trump-repaying-putin-kremlins-election-help/

    After special counsel Robert S. Mueller’s final report found no collusion between Donald Trump or his 2016 campaign and Russia, the editorial board of the Washington Post spun a new conspiracy – Trump’s “deference” to Russian President Vladimir Putin could be “repayment for the Kremlin’s help during the presidential race.”
    The Post did not specify to which “deference” it was referring. Trump has taken a hardline approach toward Russia, rejecting its annexation of Crimea, sanctioning Russian entities and checking Russian influence in Syria among many other actions.

    The newspaper’s editorial board also stated as fact that Putin interfered in the 2016 election specifically to assist Trump in the presidential race when there was no consensus conclusion reached on that assessment by the U.S. intelligence community and serious questions have been raised about the unsubstantiated claim.

    Shortly after the release of Attorney General William P. Barr’s summary of Mueller’s main conclusions on Sunday, the Washington Post published an editorial board piece titled, “Trump did not collude with Russia. But he’s wrong to say Mueller exonerated him.”

    In the editorial, the Post allowed that Mueller’s conclusion of no collusion, as per Barr’s summary, “should be a relief to Americans worried that the nation’s senior leaders acted as agents of a foreign power during the 2016 election.”

    The bizarre editorial, however, went on to advocate the conspiracy that Trump was allegedly deferring to Putin, and doing so to perhaps repay the Russian strongman for alleged help in the 2016 presidential race:

    “Bizarre” doesn’t even begin to describe the WaPo.

  17. I never thought I would see Rev Al ask a cogent question; although I think I know how he would answer it, I wonder if he really is serious?

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/03/24/al-sharpton-this-is-a-clear-day-of-victory-for-the-president/

    Sharpton said on the network’s special coverage of the release it was a good day for President Donald Trump.

    “This a clear day of victory for the president,” Sharpton said. “But I think the question that [Joe Scarborough] raises that if all is as we see from Barr’s letter, then why did so many people lie?”

  18. Jersey Fled: “I’ll be interested in seeing if any libs have enough integrity to admit they were wrong”

    Haha you are too funny JF.

    ““Bizarre” doesn’t even begin to describe the WaPo.”

    How about “dishonest hacks”?

  19. “They weren’t going to do that because street-level partisan Democrats are like this.”

    Haha precisely AD. She may be one of the more sane ones. I quit voting Dem a long time ago because it was clear to me that not only had the hard left nutjobs taken over the party but the “elders” who should have known better went along with it for political reasons. Now you have old guard party hacks like Pelosi and Feinstein prostrating themselves – or is it prostituting themselves? – to make sure they stay in favor with the AOCs, Omars and Tlaibs.

  20. I found a link to this AMAZING background on the Steele Dossier, from just-over a year ago:

    https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

    There is a LOT of detail there; my “first takes” are:
    1) Good Lord, look what it’s possible to search for –and FIND– online if you have the tools! Faces, locations, educational backgrounds, club memberships … just – wow. They (for many values of “they”) can cross-ref you six ways from Sunday.
    2) Look how WIDESPREAD the *actual* collusion was. Many-dozens of people from all around the world, and until I saw it collated here I had no idea.
    3) The author guesstimates it would have taken $5 million to $10 million to finance this effort to “delegitimize” Trump. WHO put up the money?
    4) If all these influence-peddling, perception-bending, media-seeding, “PR” companies out there have been this successful in persuading Joe and Jane Average that “Trump is corrupt” etc, etc — what ELSE have they been able to persuade us is “just simply true by common knowledge”??

  21. “…leaves the Democrats with no basis for saying something was overlooked…”

    Hmm. And what are the odds of that?

    Remember who these people are: publicity junkies who KNOW that Trump is guilty. Destroying him (and his supporters) is their raison d’etre. Their cause celebre. Their battle cry. The major reason they get up in the morning.

    (Besides, keeping the heat on Trump et al. is the best way to keep the heat OFF Obama and Hillary and Jarrett and Brennan and Clapper and all those other benevolent members of the criminal cabal AKA the Democratic Party.)

    So what, indeed, are the odds….?

    = = = = = = =
    “There was a war. You lost. Get over it.”

    Um, sorry, no.
    The resistance will continue until the resistance wins.

    The resistance reserves the right to use every possible weapon at its disposal to overcome the enemy. To right an indescribably terrible injustice. To destroy those who had the temerity not to be destroyed the first (and second and third and fourth….) time.

    The resistance will continue even if they have to declare a “hudna” to achieve their goals.

    The resistance will continue until it destroys its enemy and rights that terrible injustice—the most terrible injustice ever perpetrated in the history of humankind.

    No justice; no peace.

    Palestinian rules.

  22. The US needs to worry about what Dems do, elected Dems and Dem media (and Dems in Academia). Not the “left”, for whom nobody votes in America, but Democrats, who are identified on the ballot as (D) candidates.

    The Dems were lying, and will continue to lie, until the vast majority of people stop voting for Dems.

    Trump is not guilty, but Hillary was. I hope, but don’t yet believe, Hillary’s crimes will result in her actual indictment and a trial. Only then will Trump start looking really better.

    Why did so many lie??? — because Hillary was guilty, and they didn’t want to be punished for her guilt, or their support for the guilty.

  23. *** “Why did so many lie??? — because Hillary was guilty, and they didn’t want to be punished for her guilt, or their support for the guilty.”. ***

    Do not forget that Barack Obama, aka President Pseudonym, communicated by email with Hillary Clinton on her unsecure computer server while he sat in power as chief executive and she as Secretary of State. The DoJ and FBI discovered these pseudonymous communications during the so-called “investigation” of Clinton’s illicit handling of national security information.

    Ach! What to do?

    Well . . . Do what Pres. Pseudonym commands! Bury it all under an avalanche of bullshit, of course.

  24. A_Nonny_Mouse on March 25, 2019 at 4:01 am at 4:01 am said:
    I found a link to this AMAZING background on the Steele Dossier, from just-over a year ago:

    https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/
    * * *
    I read that very deep dive article earlier. For those interested in the Conservative Treehouse article also referred to recently, here is a connecting comment and a few other remarks.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/03/25/a-review-of-the-barr-principal-conclusion-notification-overlaying-three-years-of-background-research/comment-page-5/#comment-6838153

    jbowen82 says:
    March 25, 2019 at 3:25 pm
    There’s a reasonable answer from Yakov Apelbaum. To summarize, his conclusion is that Hakluyt is in the business of building a database on many prominent people and companies — an updated version of J. Edgar Hoover’s files — for purely mercenary purposes. This is what the 702 queries were being used for. It wasn’t Donald Trump-specific, necessarily. Fusion GPS may interact with Hakluyt routinely to dig up dirt on the opponents of Fusion’s clients.

    Apelbaum believes that the dossier has three authors — Nellie Ohr, Ed Baumgartner, and a person (probably Eastern European) whose native language is not English — and that the source material these three authors used was the Hakluyt database. Steele took their work product, embellished it a little bit to look like the product of an intelligence service, and then proceeded to circulate it.

    In Apelbaum’s view, Nellie was working for Hakluyt in building the database that became the dossier in 2015/16, but who knows what else she was feeding to Hakluyt, and on whom?

    https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

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    trapper says:
    March 25, 2019 at 6:58 pm
    And don’t forget this one. The origins of some of the dossier dirt may go back to Jacoby and Simpson reporting from as early as 2007. Builders of private files on private citizens, for future use and profit. A new, high-tech wrinkle for an ancient racket. The seminal article first, then an interpretation:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2017/12/21/report-russia-dossier-based-10-year-old-wall-street-journal-articles/

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    rayvandune says:
    March 25, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    Let me see if I understand this: for the majority of the duration of the Mueller investigation, the majority of the investigators spent the majority of their time and necessarily budget, trying to discover unrelated crimes and/or creating process crimes against Trump associates, in an attempt to coerce them to testify falsely against the President, in order to prove that he was obstructing the investigation a crime that their investigations had already established never existed? Is that about it?

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    apcharles says:
    March 25, 2019 at 4:08 pm
    Ironically… the people demanding to see the full report are the ones responsible for why we can’t see the full report.

    Because they illegally spied on innocent US Citizens, they have violated their constitutional rights already and turned this into a crisis. AG Barr has a legal responsibility to redact what he has to… all because of the criminal action of the very people demanding to see the entire report. Ironic.

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    Bonitabaycane says:
    March 25, 2019 at 5:03 pm
    Mueller Report Final Conclusion: Hillary lost the 2016 election all on her own. ?

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    sundancer55 says:
    March 25, 2019 at 5:29 pm
    I think it’s awfully “convenient” for Mueller to reach a conclusion NOW, after two years of digging into everything but the swamp, and then “finding nothing” only 2 months or so after Barr is confirmed. Yep, verrrrry convenient. Mueller needs his plow cleaned. He has a lot of questions to answer, as far as the american public is concerned. For instance, what did $30 million dollars get us? Something we already knew?? Pffft.

    wisdomtravelletstalkconservative says:
    March 25, 2019 at 5:56 pm
    Absolutely spot on sundancer.

    Curious that Mueller took so doggone long in his “investigation”. Particularly since almost all the indictments/prosecutions occurred by mid-2018. What did he do for the last 9 months besides waste $$ and allow the Left to continue to be more batsh*t crazy.

    And likely tipped the midterm election.

    Another angle of the evil “insurance policy” was tying up POTUS like Gulliver, so that he could not declassify documents to show the malfeasance and treason of FBI, DOJ and others in Obama/Hillary-land, or else it would be “obstruction”.

    I think President Trump did the right thing but that fact alone–that the Dems have the ability to pursue endless Beria-like investigations of President Trump and those in his orbit. But that said, it steels resolve for additional takedown of these traitors.

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    Republicanvet91 says:
    March 25, 2019 at 8:35 pm
    “So when we look at search warrants, subpoenas, and specifically “50 authorized pen registers“, we should note most of them were generally not needed while the Page FISA warrant was active.”

    I suspect they included so many of these other “tools” so as to provide cover for what they were getting through FISA alone.

    Since the teams in both the Hillary “investigation” and Crossfire Hurricane are the same, it would be interesting to see a comparison to the “tools” used in both. Somehow I doubt 50 pen registers, 2800 subpoena’s and 500 witnesses were involved with Hillary’s “investigation”.

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    Electra says:
    March 25, 2019 at 9:04 pm
    “Everything from August 2017 through to March 2019 was Robert Mueller and his team trying to prove an obstruction case…”

    In hindsight, it looks like all of the over-the-top prosecutorial misconduct–the early morning raids, the bullying and harassment, the ruinous expenses, etc.–that the Mueller team used against President Trump’s associates was probably an attempt to goad him into actual obstruction.

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  25. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/03/25/a-review-of-the-barr-principal-conclusion-notification-overlaying-three-years-of-background-research/comment-page-5/#comment-6838993

    plane of the ecliptic says:
    March 25, 2019 at 6:43 pm
    40 FBI Agents, and none of them stood up and called BS on all of this. They did not want to risk those first rate defined benefit pensions, or an assignment to Minot North Dakota for speaking out? If I hear the rank and file guys are so honest one more time I am going to be sick. They said “yes sir” to Hoovers abuses, and they are saying “yes sir” to this very day.

    With 37 years in the Criminal Justice field I am deeply saddened and concerned over the stink in the FBI. Lets start with a tiny, tiny, simple reform……record your interviews!!!!! An 18 year old suspect stealing jeans at the local Wally World has his interview recorded at the local PD/Sheriffs’ Office for Pete’s sake.

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