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  1. “…the long view. And it’s always just the beginning; the fight must be fought anew every day.”

    Absolutely correct.

    A war of attrition.

    Palestinian rules.

    !Viva la Resistencia!

  2. It will hardly be noticed in the context of the GND, but the front page of the local rag this morning informed us that the new Progressive Governor of California is abandoning his predecessor’s “Bullet Train to nowhere”, as unworkable in its present form. Of course, you have to parse his words carefully, because he does speak of the urgent need for commuter rail in the 168 mile corridor between Bakersfield and Merced. That route is in the central valley, which happened to be the planned first segment of the train. Only a California progressive could think that a high speed train that runs at 200 mph for about 20-25 miles, then stops for 5 or 10 minutes, is a viable expenditure of taxpayer money. If it doesn’t stop in every small city, his basic rationale is corrupted. By the way, Amtrak now serves that corridor.

    In other news that impacts the GND, it has recently been reported that electric cars lose 41% of their range at temperatures of 20 F–if the heater is operated. (I suppose SJWs don’t need heat at 20F). I doubt that many Tesla owners in the northern states were that familiar with the cold weather characteristics of batteries. Wonder if their friendly Tesla dealer educated them?

  3. SOP (standard operating procedure) for legislators: Some constituents want to declare an “international year of the persian cat”. A bill is introduced and goes directly to the bottom of the pile, never to be seen again. The cat people are happy. The legislator gets a photo op.

    McConnel is playing dirty pool. Good for Mitch.

  4. Note to (my) Senator Markey: so you’re saying the GND is all political posturing and virtue signaling bluster. Got it. Thanks.

  5. Green as in renewable money. Green as in scientifically naive. Green as in low-density, massively disruptive or blight. Save the whales! I mean, butterflies!

    That said, the “green” solutions have niche value, and should be considered in a basket of energy converters/producers as they are suitable to task.

  6. “…the fight must be fought anew every day…”

    Spot on.

    While the Left believes it is in a constant war with the Right, the old GOP never got this through their noggins & lost every skirmish since Reagan. Those now riding the Trump Train got the message when Mitt was cut off at the knees & tugged his forelock. The new GOP volunteered to go to war – POTUS Trump is the result.

    What p•sses off the Left (Dems & MSM) the most these days is that the Right just won’t roll over anymore (as long as we can keep the RINOs & Never-Trumpers on the sidelines). This Right ain’t ever going to quit…

  7. Lyndon LaRouche has died… he was 96…
    I didnt even know he was still alive…so i guess it worked out…

  8. Should have known you would be on top of the latest twist and turn of the Bullet Train fiasco. Glad, I got my comment in before I saw your post, however, as it gave me the opportunity to say something.

    With new Governor Newsom, California lurches even further left; but, if he actually terminates Brown’s favorite boondoggle it will be a good thing.

    It would be interesting if someone would compute the equivalent pay cut that living with tax burdens like that of California, and comparable states, imposes compared to states like Florida. I know that some would say that pay scales are comparatively higher in the high tax states; but, that is meaningless for many, including fixed income folks. California rates very poorly on poverty scales.

  9. Isn’t this basically the same tactic that Mueller’s ‘”dream team” used when one of the firms indicted, Concord Management and Consulting, actually showed up to demand its day in court?

  10. “Before you laugh, or ask WFT?—or both—note that this Orwellian sort of thing—allowing us to vote on something we proposed is akin to silencing our voices—is not unusual on the left. That’s why Orwell became a household word, because he noted and described the phenomenon so well. There’s plenty Republicans do and say for which they can be criticized, but Orwellian speech is far more likely to be the province of the left.” — Neo

    My favorite hat: “Make Orwell Fiction Again” – If I get the blue one, am I safe from Antifa?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkI4TzuVsAAAMng.jpg

  11. https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/12/ocasio-cortez-new-york-times-green/

    Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff said the recent Green New Deal resolution isn’t about giving more power to government — it’s about “redistributing power to workers.”

    Republicans derided the resolution as “socialist,” but the media seemed to rally around Ocasio-Cortez after her office botched the initial rollout of the Green New Deal.

    Brooks argued in a Monday column that, if passed, the Green New Deal “would definitely represent the greatest centralization of power in the hands of the Washington elite in our history.”

    Green New Deal supporters put their “faith in the guiding wisdom of the political elite,” which rarely works out, Brooks wrote.

    The columnist also poked fun at the botched rollout of the Green New Deal.

    “In an alienated America, efforts to decentralize power are more effective and realistic than efforts to concentrate it in the Washington elite,” Brooks wrote. “The great paradox of progressive populism is that it leads to elitism in its purist form.”

    Chakrabarti, who spent the weekend doing damage control over the Green New Deal’s rollout, didn’t agree with Brooks’s characterization of his boss’s signature legislation.

    “The reason the Federal Government is involved is it is the only force capable of providing the size and speed of investment necessary to create such a transformative change in the time required,” Chakrabarti tweeted before recommending Brooks read a list of anti-capitalist books.

    If you’ve lost David Brooks….

  12. Steve Walsh. You have to understand that Ed Markey’s major achievement in his decades as a Congress critter and now our junior Senator has been converting oxygen into carbon dioxide by breathing. OMG, until I wrote that, I didn’t realize that he’s contributing to Global Warming. I have to go lie down until the shock goes away.

  13. The Green New Deal is the Green New Quicksand Trap, as dug by Democrats and filled by Democrats. I laugh (HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH) in their faces.

  14. And what is it that Glenn Reynolds says? (kind of paraphrased)
    “I’ll believe there is a crisis when the people saying there is a crisis start acting like there is a crisis.”

    https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/02/13/ocasio-cortez-living-in-luxury-apartment-building/

    “Her office pushed back against the notion that it was hypocritical for Ocasio-Cortez, who has made housing affordability one of her top policy concerns, to move into a luxury building. A spokesman pointed out that her office also uses a car with an “internal combustion engine that runs on fossil fuels,” even though she thinks their use should be eliminated.”

  15. Darth Mitch — I kinda like it.

    http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/13/gop-pounce-democrats-vote/

    A number of Democratic Party presidential hopefuls endorsed the Green New Deal before the initial proposal was pulled. They fully understood the goals and timeline set by its author. No one forced them to support the idea in this form. But what sounds quixotic to the ears of activists and primary voters might sound like some half-baked self-destructive insanity to others. Which is probably why there’s been a concerted media effort to memory-hole Ocasio-Cortez’s FAQ on the proposal.

    It is certainly why Markey is nervous about a vote. The Massachusetts Senator went on to accuse McConnell of aspiring “to silence your voice so Republicans don’t have to explain why they are climate change deniers.” McConnell’s Sith-like evil genius is so extraordinary that he now has the ability to “silence” voices by allowing them to vote “yea” on the very words they wrote and filed in Congress.

    Democrats have become maestros of vague generalities, idealistic pronouncements, and scary 40-year predictions. Then again, they have a lot trouble defending the massive intrusions and costs that it would take to implement their vision–especially in a world that’s getting better in every quantifiable way. Rarely are they ever asked to do so by their compliant media allies. Ocasio-Cortez’s greatest sin was injecting some reality into the debate. You don’t wean America off affordable and prevailing energy sources without reinventing the entire economy through authoritarian intrusions and enormous economic pain. Of course they don’t want to vote on Green New Deal resolution. They prefer to incrementally, and deceitfully, enact it.

  16. Media bias? Nah, not here!

    http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/12/political-journalists-are-trying-to-gaslight-america/

    “Trump says a lot of things, like claiming Mexico will pay for the border wall, and every reporter treats his political statements as if they are chiseled into a stone. They mock those who argue that Trump should be taken seriously, not literally. Yet Ocasio-Cortez can send out a FAQ and alleged journalists will claim that it never existed because it wasn’t part of a congressional bill.

    In reality, Ocasio-Cortez never walked the ideas back. There was no “kerfuffle.” There was no “erroneous information.” There was no “flub.” Instead, it seems there was a move from rank bias to amateur gaslighting.”

  17. This is JOHN Hayward (aka Doc Zero)

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/11/hayward-ocasio-cortez-disavows-green-new-deals-faq-after-becomes-mockery/

    “The Green New Deal (GND) quickly became the subject of such mockery that its godmother, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, attempted to scrub the talking points from her website and pretend they never existed at all. The effort to erase this political disaster is one of the biggest political gaslighting operations in recent memory. It happened so fast that half of the online Left is still touting the GND as the irresistible wave of the future, while the other half thinks it’s a trick concocted by right-wing pranksters.”

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